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General DiscussionTips to gain mmr as a support

Tips to gain mmr as a support in General Discussion
Layne Staley

    Any tips guys? I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance :))

    Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

      Keep your hero pool small.
      Always keep PMA. Any flame or rage you wanna let out, do it once the throne is down.
      Learn to play around the game timer. Get the timings you need to walk from one part of map to another at different ms. This helps you plan pulls, ganks, etc.
      Accept the fact that, no matter how well you play on support, if the enemy is not completely braindead, a shit core is gonna lead to your loss, don't let such losses tilt you.
      Improve your communication skills. Learn how to manipulate the animals in your bracket by stroking their ego.

      Oldman

        Pick undying, provide free farm your carry, enjoy win.

        ..

          Spam pos 5 undying

          Agandaur Jowraek

            1. Always keep your creeps equilibrium in front of your tower by pulling. Don't pull a single camp if your creeps are already stay in front of your tower, it will make double wave and destroy your safe lane. As pos 4 always pull the big camp.
            2. Always buy salve and mango for your core. I played pos 4 with a stupid BB that never buy any mana regen, so I buy it for him so he can spam his Q. We got a lot of kills because of it. As pos 5, I always heal my carry with salve after trading.
            3. Trade your HP with enemy core HP, not enemy support. If you play over aggressive and die, it is worth it if you also depleted your enemy core hp. He needs to buy salve and mana, but you died, respawn full HP and ready to deplete his regen even more. You can also become a free courier for your core. The gold he got from killing you is not worth it. And it is better if you don't die tho.
            4. Be aggressive in lane and fuck enemy core. Use taunt or throw chilli at them or anything. Just fuck with them, because you did not waste your time to last hit, but to trade in lane. Use your spell to give you more attack damage. Don't just go near, nuke, and go. You must: hit-hit, nuke, hit-hit, get back, hit hit, nuke, hit-hit, and sometimes die. But once again worth it. But try your best to not die tho

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            unbreakable spirit

              Keep an eye on other lanes when you're baby sitting your carry or moving around the map. So that you can tp to help when your teammates are getting ganked or in trouble.

              Do not waste tp scrolls, walk if possible, only tp if absolutely necessary. This way you can tp to mid when mid hero is getting ganked, this is very important.

              Another thing is to be always on the 1% mana while laning meaning you've to spam your spells either to secure the ranged creep or to harras the enemy hero.

              Always create a 2v1 situation in lane and make two enemy heroes focus on you so that your core can effectively farm.

              Bonus: watch game leap guides for support on YouTube, it's really helpful

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              Where is my Hu Tao

                pick supports with team fight ability or stun. The more stuns you have the more mistakes you can make and still get away with it.

                ROAD TO HERALD 0

                  Learn how to manipulate the animals in your bracket by stroking their ego.

                  But what if i love animal dota?

                  Apipe

                    Everyone playing Dota have been called as dog at least once :axe_laugh:

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                      As a general guideline to support in low bracket MMR like crusader or guardian, you should pick support hero that has more impact nd can do things alone like shoving the creep wave with spell, etc jakiro,cm,shadow shaman,Rubick, and so on. BUT for the point is Rubick require more higher skill level to master, if you would like to pick position 5 be ready to have the mentality to think what teams want you and what you can contribute for them. i can give an example like you are cm with ur carry core faceless void had a bad laning stage against beasmaster or any strong lane offlane hero such as mars,tide for example you need ready to stay near the trees to keep trading your resources which mean health and mana with enemy, if the lane is pushed towards enemy side be ready to pull the creeps near the camp,preferably around :15 mins mark or you can stack the camp at :53 mins then pull later in next :15min, if enemy contest you try to fight back or back off or u can later drag the large creep camp near the radiant side bottom lane if your creep manage to go towards more on enemy tower, try to buy sentry to deward the large camp at first minute marks to prevent enemy side from puuling the creep to reset their lane equillibrium or use bodyblocking to block the creep spawn box and one more things is if the offlane enemy is smart enough to pull the creep be ready to contest and right click the neutral creep to ruin thier pulling, if the enemy more advanced enough to use creep cutting method which is probably their enemy pos 4 will do the job where the enemy try to drag your creepwave arouf tier 1 at :17 minute prepare to contest them with spell or try to mirror thier move by drag their creepwave off your tower and do the same stuff drag the enemy creepwave between your tier 1 and tier 2 towers this is more advanced case if u met this kind of players, when wining in lane such as fight dont forget to fetch yourself some consummables such as clarity and salve or even buy stick which can rly help you subtains fights in early-mid time, when wining fight and dont forget to look for any empty lane, as it is a gift for most support player out there to gain experience and gold and put down some vision.One last things buy a fricking smoke it is so useful to commit a gank or even go deep enemy jungle to have a good vision and please buy forcestaff and glimmer cape to save any allied hero from the sticky situation or even yourself!! and one more thing to remembers it is a good habit to scout 4 minute runes for your mid player and look at the timing for catapults and bounty runes as this is very important key to gain mmr. dont over underestimate caltapult as they can even help you win the even lane if you make use of it. laning stages usually end around 9 min-10 min.At that time, try to look for ganks prepare smoke and vision for teams to excute gank, and try to always remember which hero can capable of fighting and has very good kill potential, this will win you some games too.

                      In mid-game, try to look for enemy in minimap and applies pressure to other lane for example, you see 3 enemy top,1 bottom, and 1 probably mid or jungle, try to shove off the creepwave as you can in mid lane. The point is apply pressure to the enemy static lane to force rotation on the lane which can be beneficial on your teams and yourself as you can get gold and experience faster this commonly known as map control. Dont take unnecessary fight, taking with the purpose of taking an objective for example pushing tier 2 mid tower or taking roshan.

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                      CTD

                        Dont listen to below 4k mmr. They dont understand dota.

                        Fathomorg

                          Not sure if anybody else has said this, but have a healthy life balance outside of dota. This means getting enough to eat, sleep, exercise, etc. You want your ranked play to be your best showing. You're running on 4 hours of sleep? Wait. You just finished an 8 hour shift and are exhausted? Wait. Your significant other just left your and your mental state has been shattered? Wait. Make sure you're physically, mentally, and emotionally prepared to give it your all.

                          Annie-Mal

                            Solo smoke early(5-10min)and place deep vision

                            FingerMingle

                              In your bracket people fight too much for no reason, and they don't pressure towers enough. I love supports that have a wave clearing ability like lina, rubick, wyvern, grimstroke. When the laning phase breaks down and your cores want to farm, you can usually identify an area of the map that they don't want to be, because it might be dangerous if they overextend (often the offlane).

                              Buy some clarities and wards and run down that side lane and put constant pressure on enemy tower. If you die, you die, but you'll get lots of farm and open up the map for your team. A sneaky ward or glimmer/force can help you not get solo killed. In lower mmr games, you'll kill more towers, and in higher mmr games, you'll force enemy rotations.

                              In either case, you are opening up the map and there will be more space for your cores to farm, while you occupy a dangerous area. When enemies rotate, you can tp + smoke other side of the map and you'll instantly have an advantage to fight. Remember that when you push lanes, the creeps are providing extra vision on the map, and you're more likely to identify where enemy heros are when they go to kill creeps.

                              This is my favorite way to play pos 4 supports because you'll get lots of farm and have lots of impact. Be careful though, to not just leave your team fighting 4v5.

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