I agree that EarthS should be a 3 position hero. He needs some farm to function correctly. If you are going to put that much farm on him and need to fight early, why not try a Vangaurd? Its much faster to get than bkb. In fact you can get the parts of it that do the actual tanking for only 1350.
I don't think Earth really has to be magic immune to do his combo. He just needs to not instantly die. If he lives for more than 6 seconds he can refresh his ult. If he has roll leveled up later he only needs to survive for 4 seconds to roll back out and then pull out an ally to retreat if things go badly.
If you are getting plenty of gold I think it would be better for EarthS to tank with items like Vangaurd, Hood, Pipe, Heart, AC than with BkB. Really I think it would best for him to build health booster and RoH into a bloodstone. This gives him the survivability and the mana he needs for the least cost and items slots.
I see that you are not even getting Arcanes. Can you explain how you manage to have enough mana to use your skills? Is bottle really enough? How many runes to you get?
Also, can you use bkb during roll? I have not tried it. Bkb might be critical against certain heroes, like riki or Distuptor that place AOE silences over a fight. You might have to roll into that silence. But is it always needed?
i dont understand how people manage to play the same hero 10 times in a row, doesnt it get boring lol
well tis a new hero, so there's that 'learning' process and discovering how he works.
but i get your point, i feel the same way.
@relentless
In my opinion any items that make you tanky is good and viable, but most games that i played people actually pick heroes like lich, qop, etc. Heroes that deal tons of magic dmg at early - mid game. Which is why i always go bkb, but if they dont have any magic dmg heroes then vanguard - blood stone or armor items would be good.
I don't need arcane because i feel like my magic dmg is already enough and i want to deal some physical dmg to compensate, because when you do your combo, you can put 3 auto atk in after you roll into them and +24 dmg and extra move speed while atking them is huge because they are slowed. a bottle is enough. You notice that at my very first games i went arcane and i notice that when i went arcane - bloodstone i dont have the physical damage to compensate and my auto atk deal nothing. the atk boost also help you for getting farm as well.
and yes you can bkb during roll.
Reason why i use this hero a lot is because unlike any other heroes. he actually have tons of combos and utilites. Hes also very strong once you know the combos and can do it well. Granted im not a good player, but getting 4 5 wins in a row most 2 times in a row means that hes a very strong hero...and i always solo queue, and you guys know how hard it is to get 3 wins in solo queue let alone 10.
A friend of mine is doing fine with him
http://dotabuff.com/players/50962344/matches?hero=earth-spirit&game_mode=&match_type=real
He goes offlane - teambattle utility hero
yes sano if you notice your friend score..everytime he goes bkb, he get positive score and win the match.
i think bkb is important on earth
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been playing him lately..so feel free to look around
http://dotabuff.com/players/83521842/matches?hero=earth-spirit&game_mode=&match_type=real
most of them are solo queue as well
This hero is great..yes i said it, great in the right hand.. now im not even that good of a player, but i practice his combos in bot games for about 2 days straight, and that is the result.
Skills :
once you master how to do stone - e - w - r - q under 2 second..then you pretty much have lvl 3 venge swap rte there and this is your main solo kill combo
earth spirit also have a stun that is similar to earth shaker stun which is stone - e and this stun has very low cool down.
stone - e - q the stone -stone - w - r .. this combo here is basically a puck silence followed up by devastating ullt. ( i have not mastered this yet )
Magnetic grip ---> this skill can make and break the game, saving your allies life means that you are wasting opponent time, halting their farm and most importantly your team mate wont lose gold.
His ult also have potential to deal more damage than sand king ult.
Roles :
This guy isn't a support, sure he can fly a chicken and buy some wards but hes not a ward bitch. Overall i think he needs farm to get tanky items such bkb, ac, etc. Why bkb you ask ? .. because once you do his combo in team fight you will be in the middle of the fight rte near 4 5 other heroes.. which is why i think tank items are vital for this hero. Believe it or not from my experience i think earth role would be a ganker that can transition as a tank disabler that can deal some dps with AC late game.
now idk what valve plan have for this hero since hes not in cm yet, but i think there will be more changes for this hero in the future. I hope he won't get nerf, but judging from my experience this hero is top tier.