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General Discussion[Tournament] ProDotA Solo Ranked League Season 3! Free to join

[Tournament] ProDotA Solo Ranked League Season 3! Free to join in General Discussion
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    Hello!

    We opened the registration phase, so now you can join to our leagues! Yes leagues, because we will start 2 different leagues for 4000- (Amateur) and 4000+ (Semi-Pro) players, so we hope everyone will be happy with this.

    The registration is really simple. All info and reg on the site!
    http://prodota.hu

    EmptyJar

      since when 4000 is semi pro? or right because you're barely 4k and you want to be in it ;(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

      King of Low Prio

        if the 5k range is where most pro players are

        that means that the 4k is where semi pro players are

        logic is hard I know

        FlipFlop

          6k super pro

          Pr0_1000

            Why do you tell that tournament is for free? Checked rules:

            - Registered players must buy a treasure key and give that the admin!

            DAFAQ IN HELL? Buy your own treasure key.

            -1

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              Ryan you are right i forgot to delete that, but this is totally free! And yes 5k is pro so i think 4k+ is semi-pro. But we not called players semi-pro or pro, we just gave names to our leagues.... By the way, register guys! :P

              Woof Woof

                page seems to be done poorly I cant remember last time when i had to use horizontal scrollbar to see whole page

                bet against me :)

                  Dont know who cares this... there is some problem with the banner i think. but i dont care.. the page is working and do his job perfectly....

                  Woof Woof

                    strong approach

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                      its not approach its a fact. Nobody and nothing is perfect but this page isnt bad i think :P

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                        btw i dont need to scroll the page horizontal to see everything so idk how is ur resolution.

                        Woof Woof

                          1280x1024

                          [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/mZr20Ad.png[/IMG]

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                            1366

                            A képet a Képfeltöltés.hu tárolja. http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu[/url]

                            Pr0_1000

                              @Becks Page is done bad. Even information was not deleted. Sidebar not configured. I think you have and idea to later get $$$ for this somehow. Even if you say no, but we all understand, that all goes about $$$. So, even if you are not planning to do it in this year, you need to make all information correct, webpage ready to work @ the best!

                              If you, keep telling, that you don't care, that the webpage does all right, then you are in wrong position. And I as a customer ( If it's still free, I'm still a customer/client ) see how do you talk, then I don't even have a little belief in you, that tournament will be good.

                              So, here are some tips:
                              1. Before you do something, go trough your homepage, make it right, so there would not be any bad information. Make you homepage prestigious not some 5 min installed next next blog. Work on it. Put some information in there, make it good, not poor!
                              2. Work on your presentation skills. It goes for homepage, forums, other websites where you put information and communicate.
                              3. Customer is always right!
                              4. If you think we are wrong... read 3. point again.
                              5. And again, homepage information flow is bad. Even if I look at first page, I don't understand a crap what's going on there. What tournament is closed, what happened in those tournaments???
                              6. If you need help, I can give you consultation on WordPress and social sites and presentation. My daily works is about this. I will give you this even for free.
                              EDIT: 7. Do you even know how to work in WordPress? Even your permalinks are wrong.

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                              bet against me :)

                                Bump! Players wanted :P

                                Seoulmate

                                  Minimum DotA 2 Rating: 4000 points above = Amateur | 4000 poinst or more = Semi-Pro

                                  There is a typo in your requirements page. And you're basically saying that if you have 4000 points or above you're amateur and if you have 4000 points of more you're semi-pro. I don't quite understand

                                  Strongmind

                                    This league is a trash don`t join it. Admins are kids. You call admin noob cus he ruin you multiple games and than you get unvouch,roflmao.

                                    Strongmind

                                      Actually this league can be good,but with Anti Mage as a admin is fucking disaster,there is needed more mature admins and more mmr requirements. Becks is a bit more mature than Anti Mage but still disaster.

                                      Strongmind

                                        If they can put 4500 or 5000 mmr minimum, and a bit bigger money prizes than alot of semi pros and pros will join league similar to eel,also more ppl will buy tickets and whole organization will work better.

                                        Socram

                                          I don't quite get the rules.
                                          The league mode is proclaimed as solo ranked, but how are the teams decided? I read something about a "challenge mode" where you can select team mates... so 5 solo players vs. stack is possible here? oO
                                          Also the rules state something about a scoring system where the best/worst player of the round gets/loses points... how are these players determined? Please don't tell me by KDA ^^

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                                            This bogidoto .... XDXD Cry all games, call admins noobs, kids and fucking retards thats why we banning him and now the leauge is a piece of shit... okay. My only question is: Who is the kid?

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                                              Socram: Its like when you go to solo ranked MM on dota2. You find a CM mode, so you have 4 random mates, but if you want challange somebody on IXDL client you and the challanged one can chose the team members.
                                              We usually chose MVP of the round who bring the most points in each Rounds or has the most Win streak.
                                              I hope now you can get it :P
                                              Yeah i forgot: You can never head against 5 stack!

                                              Strongmind

                                                Becks hahhah you are so so so l2p 3000 mmr you are not even allowed to play your own league. :D

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                                                  XD okay... we set the 4k mmr requirement at the half of the league but you are so clever and know it. :D You kind suck player with suck english

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                                                    "you are so so so l2p" l2 speak english pls

                                                    Hopeless

                                                      its a decent cheap ticket, but the games are hit or miss for a spectators point of view. There are several players who just stomp their opponents repeatedly.

                                                      Also, since these games are basically just pubs, expect to see general pub behavior at times. Complaining in all chat, intentional feeding, arguing etc.

                                                      bet against me :)

                                                        btw u are ignored by me, so feel free to flame me or my league i will not reply u

                                                        Strongmind

                                                          Don`t be mad , one day maybe you get out of your noob bracket,and maybe you find some players for your league.

                                                          BenaoLifedancer

                                                            +1 ^

                                                            Socram

                                                              == quote ==
                                                              You find a CM mode, so you have 4 random mates, but if you want challange somebody on IXDL client you and the challanged one can chose the team members.
                                                              We usually chose MVP of the round who bring the most points in each Rounds or has the most Win streak.
                                                              I hope now you can get it :P
                                                              == /quote ==

                                                              Nope... I still don't quite get it.
                                                              1) Doesn't the challenge mode, which I understand now as a stack vs. stack mode where both team leaders agree on the match, encourage some kind of win trading? And even if it doesn't, I don't see how the mode complies with the "solo ranked" theme of the league.
                                                              2) What is a round here? Points? Win streak within a round??? I know rounds from "Best of 3/5/x" encounters, but that doesn't seem to fit bere... you probably mean regular matches? But how are points accumulated in them? The only meaningful parameter of a match outcome that I know of is which ancient has fallen. The "best" player in the match could only be decided by the subjective assessment of spectators, which isn't really sufficient for giving the players varying amounts of points. All objective parameters like KDA, GPM, XPM and such are highly dependant on the role a player was performing, thus also not adequate to give points based on them. If you still do, I'd expect matches with 10 carries that try to farm and not die as much as they can.

                                                              All these things are not explained in the league's rules section, which opens the potential for admin arbitrariness.

                                                              Or I am simply unable to find it. Well, I just read it again, and now there seems to be a new section about "Rounds / Kiesők" which tries to explain them as... the accumulated matches of three days? That would at least somehow explain how to apply win streaks to the scoring.

                                                              My questions about challenge mode and points are still open, though.

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                                                                Man. You say: "I just read it again, and now there seem to be a new section"
                                                                LOL MAN NEW SECTION? That section was there for 2 month but np. Btw i think quite everything in the Rules menu but if you still dont get it go to ixdl.net and read rules, points award and etc.

                                                                Donald Duck

                                                                  Do u need casters? Just wondering.

                                                                  Socram

                                                                    Maybe I accidently skipped that section the first time I read the rules. Quite funny that this detail is the only thing of my post that you're commenting on, though.
                                                                    Which leaves me with the impression that you're either unable or not bothering to answer my questions. The reference to ixdl.net is not helping by all means, especially considering that you're adding rules on top of it.

                                                                    So while I'd be interested in a nicely done solo league, I don't quite see it here if I add up your unprofessional posts, the website with it's numerous english errors and the questionable/unspecified ruleset.

                                                                    Vaeldiithia

                                                                      Becks, if you want people to play in your tournament, ah and if you want nice people, not only players like Bogi who can actually play but will flame you all day till you kick them, you should act more mature and be fair and nice to people askint questions. If others cant understand your rules, it means its not well-written, if for others your site is broken/have to scroll sideways, it means your site is shit, it has to work for everyone, not just with your browser/resolution, or at least list it somewhere that whats the minimum to use it (for that YOU need to do the tests, there are sites for that, making you screenshots on differenet computers with different resolution/os/browser), and if you continue answering as you do, dont expect anyone to actually play on your tournament. Also would be nice if youd answer Socram's questions, couse there were some interesting ones.

                                                                      There was someone who actually offered professional help for free. I really hope you accepted and already added on steam. If not, dont expect anything good from players, if you dont care, why would anyone else do?

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                                                                      BenaoLifedancer

                                                                        + that league is shit
                                                                        3k people thinking that they are good when they arent even decent

                                                                        Vaeldiithia

                                                                          ^+1
                                                                          I enjoy spectating any random 4k+ player on my list playing pub than those games... One sided and boring, same as a between 3-4k pub where match making failed.

                                                                          But it could be solved if better players would lke to join. But somehow admins have to win them, and by trashtalking, I dont see too high chances for that...

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                                                                          SalaciousCrome

                                                                            Alrighty, here are some thoughts.

                                                                            Becks:

                                                                            You need to understand that with every amateur tournament you will struggle to get it off the ground and you need to learn to weather a LOT of criticism until you have built up a reputation whereby people will blindly join. As I can see a lot of effort gone into this I will offer some suggestions.

                                                                            1. Send me content of your site (or the source) and I will proof read and correct and clarify things in a concise manner which should hopefully eliminate a lot of the "learn english" flaming.

                                                                            2. You have set requirements based on rating and as a rating seed is concerned this is ill-advised. People are SUPER sensitive about their rating and you are limiting your audience and participation by doing this. You are telling people that they simply aren't good enough to play with the "big" boys and that in itself will bother people enough to not want to play (just read up the post and all the MMR rating related comments, it's an issue)

                                                                            3. Take the time to fix your site from a technical level. If the delivery of service is felt as cheap this can also turn people away. You can have the tastiest meal in the world but people aren't going to try a bite if it looks like it belongs at the bottom of the ocean. A suggestion http://battlefy.com/ try this site as I know it helps to organize tournaments and most of the tournament regulars are very accustomed to using it.

                                                                            Aside from that I would also grab a couple friends to try and help you publicize and manage. Offer a prize pool from a cached item base. Ask people to help you stream/manage/cast as I know some people would enjoy the chance to stream and chat about sweet nothings (blunt is always around to cast if you can sweet talk him into it). Learn to admin your tournaments with a level of disaster recovery and keep in mind that people will always misbehave, come prepared. League of DotA figured this out and now actually cleaned up to be a half-decent tournament. AD2L are very together but this didn't happen overnight.

                                                                            As for the rest of you, don't be dicks towards people who are genuinely trying to start up some kind of community driven tournament. For the love of Cthulhu.

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