General Discussionember spirit new meta?

Yes, this hero is brokenly OP

Crystal Maiden is OP, Ember Spirit just average.

He's strong, but not OP I'd say.

I think he's just good vs pusher like nature prophet/illusion/unit based push (necro)

Since with him getting battlefury, MKB and Dae, you can clear some heavy necromicon warriors attacking your base

strong hero. gets early levels and can stomp mid game really hard, and with items, he can insta rampage.

silent > ez kill

People will learn how to counter him
similar to slark undying etc.

that korean ember didnt know you can use searing chains while in sof, also wasted his remnants all game long

he played it quite poorly actually, only his farm was great

@I'm what willis talks about, what is this slark undying thing you speak of?

Slark was massive when he came into CM then they learned how to counter him
Undying was great in a trilane until they started counterpicking

pick lion and u'll be fine, or bone, od, whaterver

Everytime i see a pub picking him and saying that he is broken they suck really hard.

silence counters him badly

and physical damage

just like all the spirits you buy a orchid and watch them flop over

^ and what happens when he gets bkb? :D

u wait til his BKB is done or get him before he can pop BKB

When he gets bkb you one shot him with kunkka or sven or some trully manly hero and you just watch how he dies with his -100000 armor.

I don't know why but as you noticed a bunch of Pros are picking him all of a sudden. Lets try to refresh this thread.

use silencio on him

Invoker 's spirits + snap = <3

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But seriously, silencing, stun locking, killing, denying their farm, and killing them early are all viable options. Delay a pub players battlefury and they wont know what to do (atleast in my 2.8k mmr hell)