General Discussion

General Discussionforced fucking 50 percent

forced fucking 50 percent in General Discussion
Alation

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/540300475
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/537648998
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/536378401

    greater than 70 percent with anti-mage, impossible without stack. PICKING pudge vs invoker so smart guys same fag canadian i had another time who says ff when he fails mid~
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/540931321
    so fucking painful..

    Not so Trash

      if you take away per you get 50 cent

      [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qm8PH4xAss[/YOUTUBE]

      Hopeless

        there are multiple threads with this same title.

        And if Valve was really "forcing" you to have a 50% win rate, you wouldn't have a 49.50% win rate.

        Alation

          i have 3 wins more than losses on my dota profile.

          SalaciousCrome

            Still not 50% though.

            Forced 50% is a god damn myth and just requires certain things in place before you can move up from that plateau.

            Playing any sport by yourself isn't going to get you any better you need a few things in place before you can actually start to excel. You have to change some element of how you usually play to see yourself move out of the plane you are currently in.

            Овај коментар је измењен
            Totentanz to The King: M ...

              That's what happens if you go Heart before Manta.

              Low Expectations

                How does the "Range" affect the games you play? Am I the only one that get extremly onesided games when the ranges increases?

                Alation

                  i go heart before when i have to. everyone telling me this shit never plays antimage or has average performance with him. and no i wasnt going heart anyway, i get a casual vitaility booster. because 900 health is not enough at that stage of the game.

                  SalaciousCrome

                    Yasha before Orb. You have an orb and a vitality booster both are good items towards something else but are dick on their own with nothing else but a battlefury.

                    Alation

                      i was at side shop so sometimes i just get orb first anyway

                      Alation

                        i mean alot of my games i have most hero damage and a good amount of kills and assists. the reason i say forced is because it doesnt matter what hero i am, this 40 percent hero i can do as much with as i can with many other carries maybe even more, so it wouldnt matter what hero i play i'd still get these situations. and im not good enoguh for a stack i never played dota 1 so thats already out of the question

                        FlipFlop

                          loser always complains

                          http://dotabuff.com/matches/540393665
                          check replay if u want to see how noob my team is

                          Alation

                            wouldnt be surprised if you play mid, then that is the reason you were able to win. 3/4 games our mid was terrible. 2 games yesterday i had a DP lose vs Riki and act like it wasnt her fault. I can not help these situations.

                            Alation

                              played*

                              Alation

                                oh and then a game where a mid wasnt picked (i picked antimage 2nd) and treant had to go mid sniper got free reign all game. both of thnese games the riki and sniper snowballed, which i couldnt do anything about.

                                FlipFlop

                                  if u want to win, just pick mid hero

                                  or split push hero, playing solo queue and trusting your teammate is 50-50.

                                  Alation

                                    ^ so should i become a mid counter picker? because obviously when i care i can make the most out of the hero (anti-mage), but i despise people who call mid every game, and counter pick everygame. I dont really want to win, i want to get better, but does that mean i have to become what i hate to consistenty improve?

                                    FlipFlop

                                      well, from what i see is you blame your mid.

                                      So just pick mid hero so you can feel how the feel of your teammate.

                                      hard carry in pub is easy, mid is a little bit hard. Hard support is the hardest one.

                                      Alation

                                        yay some fag waited till 1m inute and picked OD after i picked invoker even though they had a pudge. such fun game

                                        Alation

                                          i dont blame my mid, im in 2 of those games that was THE reason we lost. free farm sniper, riki as is so easily shown i nthe scoreboard

                                          Alation

                                            welp nvm ur idea is working, somehow owning their team vs an OD

                                            Noé

                                              With your attitude you're just going to keep on losing. Be nice to your teammates, give constructive feedback even when they flame you. That's how winning is done. It's all about being positive.

                                              The last match i played solo ranked my teammates were feeding both bot and top, but i kept my head cool, and gave only constructive feedback such as pay attention to the miss, position yourself better, carry TPs vs Viper and DP. Since i didn't flame them, they took my advice and stopped dying. We ended up winning after a few lost teamfights.

                                              My point is, if i started flaming them, saying stuff like GG bot feed end fast pls, not only would they flame me back, but they would be discouraged to keep on playing to their full potential, which would make us definitely lose.

                                              TL;DR: Be nice, don't flame.

                                              PS: Consider it a challenge when someone counter-picks you. You're not going to have an easy lane, but you're going to learn a lot more.

                                              Tyakos

                                                Pick AM == lose dota.

                                                Dizzy

                                                  Andy mage picker deserves more then force 50% give him force 30% plz

                                                  BenaoLifedancer

                                                    you suck - simple as that

                                                    Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                      AM is really a sub-3k MMR hero, say 2.2k or 2.5k MMR pubstomp hero. Problem with him is he has no magic immunity vs. a stun heavy lineup. If you blink into a trap you are basically screwed. Battlefury is fun but only if you are ahead and farm a good 10-20 minutes, then push as five. He has a small timing window to push after BF. If too much time elapse after BF and you aren't OWNING the other team it's basically over when it's pass 60 mintue etc... when other team has late game items. Deadalus or Mjollnir or manta will scale better late game than Battlefury. Him & void has a HP problem with BF. They can't survive hits. Even if you make another damage item, blade mail counters it very hard unless you get lfiesteal. Thus 15-20 minutes of farm for BF and another 10-20 mintues for 2nd & 3rd item only to be countered by blademail, means you gotta farm another 5-15 mintues for another counter item. No BKB for AM means u can't stand in front of lineup for team so you will basically be KSing allies all game.

                                                      Let's review your games:

                                                      Game 1: Opposing team had better lineup. Lion/warlock/abbadon. basically they can't die and if lion fingers anybody during warlock's combo you guys will like close to 1000+ hp, if 5 team were linked.

                                                      Game 2: No counter for the sniper/naix combo. Being slowed and proc'ed heatshot.. no escape! Your shadow shaman & enchantress fed. I woulda told them to jungle or play more passive after 2+ deaths. Or if you did they prob. got mad/throw etc...

                                                      Game 3: No excuses for losing game 3, you guys won in the kill department. But CM & Rubrick outplayed your support disruptor. You & PA couldn't carry game that's it. Musta been some nice top notch rubrick plays I assume.

                                                      AM needs babysit from minute 1 to 30. Not for his sake but so that the supports dont' feed. Or if they do, it's for exchange. It's like playing thos furion games where you are so rich, but your team is feeding. You're fighting an uphill battle. AM is hardly picked in CM or pro scene. I would suggest switching over to bloodseeker and mastering 17-22 minute radiance/treads build. Go blademail into bkb or deadalus and you're set to win.

                                                      Either that or you got to realize. Anybody at your skill level on AM could play any other hero and pawn you. That's it. Either you need more luck on you or change your build to counter theirs. Don't just make BF all the time thinking this is the BEST AM item EVAR.

                                                      Овај коментар је измењен
                                                      Alation

                                                        to all the people saying i treat people badly, i never talk in chat

                                                        Alation

                                                          Also i dont know why people hate on antimage peoples, such a cool hero

                                                          Dizzy

                                                            ^ Andy picker ahahahahahaaa

                                                            Alation

                                                              and no i dont make battlefury all the time, only get it to push out lanes. and i usually finish it after a few items. another guy with like 30 percent antimage telling me how to play him WHAT THE FUCK

                                                              Alation

                                                                ANTIMAGE DOTO BEST DOTO

                                                                Alation

                                                                  wish i had a stack so icould play him as much as this guy. already 1400 kills on my helmet http://dotabuff.com/players/44653631

                                                                  Овај коментар је измењен
                                                                  Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                                    just theory craft this... trilane AM safe lane... vs. trilane safe WK or Jug... same build... guess what happens in 1v1? He has crit you don't.. he rez/omnislash, u die. Or 15-20 minute 1v1... safe lane boots/bf AM vs. offlane no farm only phase boots & wraith band weaver... Assuming you don't hide in trees but run to base.

                                                                    AM has no farming ability, no crit or damage dealing passive/aura. Low HP pool. Requires just 40-50 minutes just to get off the ground. Also requires that his team doesn't feed during that time. etc...

                                                                    Овај коментар је измењен
                                                                    BenaoLifedancer

                                                                      you suck a lot - in case it wasn't clear enough

                                                                      Noé

                                                                        Am i hearing this right? AM Has no farming ability?
                                                                        ... Really? Like are you seriously saying that Anti-Mage has no farming ability?

                                                                        He has the best damage dealing passive, which synergizes perfectly with his ult and illusions. He is heavily resistant to spells, and all agi heroes have low hp pool. Requires a BF and a manta to get off the ground. He has a 1.5 second bat which makes him hit fast, a 5 second blink which makes him the splitpushing and flashfarming GOD. He eats WK for breakfast with his mana burning skill, and jugg won't have any mana to use any of his spells in a 1v1 lane situation.

                                                                        Also, battlefury isn't fun. Battlefury is CORE, an anti-mage without battlefury is a retard-mage.

                                                                        PS: Anti-mage is the one carry that can win the game WHEN your team is feeding by split-pushing and having map awareness to blink away from danger. Please check your facts.

                                                                        sano

                                                                          Did someone really say the hero with the strongest flashfarm potential (except alchemist maybe) in the game has no farming ability?

                                                                          Овај коментар је измењен
                                                                          Androgynous

                                                                            Horrid skill build. Maxes Blink by level 14 which means if he got Battle Fury before level 14 he was farming much slower than he could've been because of Blink's cooldown, or it means that he got Battle Fury at level 14 or later which is way too fucking late for it to be of any use.

                                                                            In one game you go Battle Fury, Vlads, and Vanguard which contradicts the whole point of the Vlads + Vanguard build, which is to fight early and NOT afk farm with BF. If you didn't go BF that time you'd probably have Manta which is a better teamfight item than BF, because BF gives you no fucking HP - which is coincidentally why it's also shit on Bounty Hunter (but that's just one reason).

                                                                            If you get BF there's no need to get Vlads, you'll be able to farm a Manta in no time, Vlads just slows down your Manta by about 4-5 minutes. If you get Vlads, that's basically the poor man's Battle Fury - you use it to jungle, and then you split push since the aura gives nearby creeps some damage as well as 5 armour to tank the tower.

                                                                            Getting BF instead of Manta when you have Vlads slows down your Manta by like 15-20 minutes.

                                                                            Heart against TB is useless, Sunder is % based, Abaddon has Blade Mail and Shiva's, and Riki has his silence cloud and Diffusal Slow. Get Manta instead of Heart and BKB instead of Battle Fury. Manta to dodge shit and extra Mana Burn damage, and BKB to fight Riki in smoke cloud, and not take Blade Mail or Shivas damage vs Abaddon.

                                                                            In the game where you have damage items, you needed BKB. Rubick has Hex and Lift, two instant disables, Dragon Knight has Halberd and Dragon Tail, and CM with Frostbite.

                                                                            Item choices may have played a crucial part in the outcome of the game. I can't be arsed watching, but maybe your decision making too.

                                                                            nuvole bianche

                                                                              lmfao you play with ksy u must also be awful

                                                                              Not so Trash

                                                                                lol!!!

                                                                                Овај коментар је измењен
                                                                                Androgynous

                                                                                  who's ksy

                                                                                  Hoodwinked

                                                                                    LOL SAD you norwegien or swedish fuck idk what to call you

                                                                                    Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                                                      Thanks Androgynous. don't know why so many BF AM luvers. He's so vulnerable to nukes til he get's manta or treads. He's like 900 hp at level 14 and under 700hp at level 8 with just bf & brown boots. @ level 14 with manta, treads he is only siting at 1200 hp. I am wondering what MMR bracket this guy is in.

                                                                                      Овај коментар је измењен
                                                                                      Alation

                                                                                        ^ ok from now none of you idiots with less than 50 percent with antimage can give me advice

                                                                                        Dizzy

                                                                                          i have 0% on antimage because hes gay as fuck hero >:D and no 1 shuld play him

                                                                                          Alondite

                                                                                            antimage is one of the best melee vs melee carries in trilanes
                                                                                            completely shits on jugger due to mana break making it impossible to stay near creaps and if you dont get perfect lockdown on him he blinks @ the guy who said jugger beats him

                                                                                            http://dotabuff.com/matches/244992483
                                                                                            you went midas into ring of health (forced bfury cuz u upgraded ur stout shield already) so how are you qualified to take shots at the same build you use

                                                                                            Овај коментар је измењен
                                                                                            Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                                                              I meant safe lane for both. So not doing tri vs. tri. So safe lane radiant and safe lane (top) dire. OP is good with AM i'll have to admit considering he's near 70% winrate on AM when pub level is 40%. Just saying he's not picked as much and he's not that snowball of a hero compared to say slark, spectre, jug, wk etc.

                                                                                              as for tri vs. tri. If they have 2 or 3 stunners, I doubt Am wiill blink in and dance. Even if team if tied with stunners it comes down to hero attack range.

                                                                                              Alation

                                                                                                @kappa god, he also went midas on antimage. WHAT THE FUCK.

                                                                                                Noé

                                                                                                  GET THAT DOLLA YO

                                                                                                  mwsqz

                                                                                                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/540414248
                                                                                                    sf fed on purpose+crow fed

                                                                                                    we still won cuz im too swag. pls drop dead with ur 50% forced

                                                                                                    MadBeast

                                                                                                      you have 49%, so your probably the one preventing players in your team to have way higher than 50% wr.