General DiscussionCommunication in dota

"Start working as a team. Playing as a team. Don't ignore your teammates or mute them once they say something you dislike. Argue with them, make them understand why what you're saying is correct, so they won't just go into another game and do the same shit again."

I laughed so much when i saw that, i mean lets be honest, arguing with your team in a game its a waste of time, and it doesnt matter the amount of arguments you give them they will do the same shit again and again

idc
sometimes i ask sometimes i ignore and blaklist

i try to talk to my team, but if i realize they're dumb i just ping stuff and watch them and tell them when to go b.

prime example of this is when i build mek on razor/viper and they allchat: LOL VIPER THINKS HE IS SUPPORT HES BUILDING MEK

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Typical on Peruvians

Dorkly, the sad truth mate is that we live in a world where the majority is just plain ignorant.
I mean no offence to anybody with this, but the point is people are just not capable of understanding what is normal to do in order to be cooperative in a team game as they are ignorant in general for lots of other things IRL.

That is also a reason (IMHO) why i don't get this much frustrated when i lose in a 5v5 team game with my buddies.
No matter how bad we can all play at least i know we all spoke and did our best to enjoy it.

And that is also why when i try to be polite and communicate and feel open minded but get flamed or insulted for no reason i get pissed.
Once i am pissed and full with rage the game cannot be played in a good way from my side, I lose the focus

I think for me personally focus is the key to every game victory, or almost to all of them.
Not sure you feel the same way.

Communication is good when your teammates are willing to cooperate and take advantage of the information you can share with the team. Sadly, most of the times people don't give a shit about it and won't listen to you or anyone.
I don't speak to my teammates anymore, I don't give them my opinion about how bad is Vanguard on Viper/Razor or why BH doesn't need a Battlefury. I just play my game and keep the talk to a minimum (e.g. "tower and b", "ganking top", "focus WD on tf", "4 top push bot"), because any criticism will be taken as a flame and you just need one little comment to start a flame war that will end up in you losing the game.
I also mute my teammates if they're annoying or dicks. If I focus on farming instead of typing, we might have a chance to win.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/731978209
Lich was a total ass, so I muted him 5 mins into the match and I told my teammates to do the same. He never used his spells but to KS, he didn't buy wards nor dust (Me and NP did, I bought the gem as well). We were behind in gold for 40 mins and then we started to destroy towers and come back. When we started to come back he stayed in base (I guess he was trying to throw without ruining his pretty KS score), but we managed to win fighting 4v5. I think this wouldn't have been possible if I didn't mute him straight away.

"And that is also why when i try to be polite and communicate and feel open minded but get flamed or insulted for no reason i get pissed.
Once i am pissed and full with rage the game cannot be played in a good way from my side, I lose the focus"

That its exactly the reason why i dont even try nowadays, i tried in so many games to be polite, to help people only if they want help etc but it didnt work.

So why would i even try nowadays ? To just get mad ? No, i am not going to tryhard.

I even tried to chose my words very carefully, like " hey man i think it would be nice if you bought this item, would be better this game i think " but usually they just laugh at my tip and just keep doing stupid stuff.

heh, you know what is funny ? nowadays i think the ones who actually tries to communicate with their teams in pub are just ingenuous people, i have become what i hated the most ( solo player that just ignore his team ).

Anyway at least i dont flame right ?

i tend to communicate with my team to set up ganks and stuff like that, i never flame
if i feel the guy clearly doesnt have any clue of how to play the hero i tell him after the game is lost (the opp team is taking down our racks) that perhaps its not a good idea not to put a single point in your passive when you are a bristleback, or that as storm you should be better building a orchid rather than a dagon 2, stuff like that :|

lol reddit posters are such whiny nerds

that guy sounds like one of those that writes a poem in all chat at the start like

"Hello guys, I hope everybody has a good game and remember the most important thing is to have fun!"

FUCKING DIE please

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I like how he complains that he tries to tell ppl what item to buy / what to do, and it's never received positively. Lmao

YEAH FUCK THOSE GUYS TRYING TO BE NICE, WHY CANT THEY ALL BE LIKE PACMANE AND BEHAVE LIKE A 15 YEARS OLD KID

"whiny nerds"

Says the one flaming in a forum

I dont agree with those reddit guys but neither i agree with this two raging nerds.

Lol who's the one typing all caps and swear words? Lmao

Sorry I just can't help being annoyed by the type of folks who post a 2000 word "dear diary" about their solo queue woes on reddit.com

Seen the type in my games and you can instantly recognize them

shut the fuck up u faggot

"It also seems that a lot of people are also suggesting I just mute people who are acting like jerks, simply avoiding the arguement, and try to befriend (is that 1 or 2 words?) those that are not.
But I don't want to avoid the arguement. I want the people who are acting like jerks / or simply disagreeing with me, to understand what I'm saying, or make me understand what they are saying."

Yeah this is bullshit, if you start to argue with someone in a game you are going to spent the fucking game chating, muting people is the way to go

@UZS160

Well dude i dont agree with them either, but i understand why they do this. They just think that they can actually come to a conclusion if they spent their whole game speaking with someone, when we all know that it makes 0 sense to even try it when most of the times you are going to get a " cyka blyat " when you try to help someone in your game.

just got a game where i said "can i go mid or someone else wants to go there?"
the response was "my penis in your butt you cockmongler"

I usually argue with some retard while the picks are made, and then mute all my teammates :3. I tried to talk to the teammates, tried to make them understand that 5 carry team , or a team with no carry is bad. At some point i understood that you can't make your opinion theirs, and you think you're better, and they think they are better. Sometimes i get very good teammates who voicechat and i enjoy those kind of games but it happens once in 20 or 30 games.

I reckon a happy idiot who built Vanguard is better than a flamed idiot who built Drum. No one likes being told what to do unless they ask for it; I'm no exception, I tend to go out of my way to do the opposite of what they want when someone tries to baby me, admittedly leading to a loss sometimes. I prefer 'WTF UR SO RETARDED' people to 'go drum-vlad on pa trust me ... venge build urn so you can roam, and arcanes for the mana' people ... I fucking know, why don't you play your own fucking game....