General DiscussionEGs draft?????

I would cry if i saw this lineup in a pubgame..

EG mind games and obvious throws. Include in Clinkz's going deso first imo or DS into obvious range safelane.

I dont think you're good enough at dota to comment on anything

I think you are. Does my opinion count or am i not good enough to express my opinions.

He has had a rough day as a C9 fan I am guessing ;)

Ahh i see. ;p

It is much better hearing what the future stars of non pro games think isn't it?

If u disagree about it feel free to explain why. :)

Oh i know that, i open steam and from there i can open the client and thus play Dota 2. But thank you :) Anything else you feel like contributing with?

I hate bounty hunter, he's always useless in my games. I don't know much about Dota 2 compared to EG obviously, but that line up does seem weak in my 3.6K opinion. I repeat i don't know shit about Dota 2, so relax all you MLG PRO 420 Dota buff ninja TI5 level players.

u have no fucking idea what ppd had in his mind picking those heroes

it might not make sense for u but it does make sense in drafters head perfectly

but then comes in different variables human error and other kinds of bullshit and then it might not work

^---or maybe EG isn't too concerned with early matches.

Either way to act like most people aren't kind of face palming at that draft is kind of well unlikely to say the least.

PPDs draft understanding is light years ahead of yours.

They are clearly testing drafts and holding strats.

No kidding basically that is what everyone is in agreement on and yes likewise his understanding is light years beyond you as well.

Now let this post die please.

they're saving strats for TI8

Of course they are still testing. All the teams are.

For example, the last templar pick for suma1l. All the teams know that TA is putting up insane winrates so far at TI. They pick it early and see how it will get countered now, so they don't run into a a potential hard counter later.

In this case, the counter was silencer, and they managed to overcome it.

the games might now be throwaways and of course they want to win, but they are all going to make it to the bracket stage. Newbee finished 8th in group stage last TI i think..

Understand that you are in normal skill bracket and have a 40 percent winrate in ranked. don't doubt someone in a top team playing in a multi million dollar tournament.

Ok i unerstand im normal skill and your high skill, but we can smurf. Smurf smurf smurf.

A well planned group stage can put you in favorable position during the main stage.

2.6k games and normal skill? You probably don't have any ground to criticize ppd. I'm sure he could play in your bracket with his right hand

Of course they're experimenting. I don't believe ppd is so stupid to let Leshrac get picked, they just try to deal with him. IMO it's impossible tbh, coz this is the most broken hero in CM ever on par with pre nerf IO/Bat. It really amazes me how broken hero can be.

I will point out that the pro drafters team got stomped HARD so asking what he was thinking (ESPECIALLY for us low level players) is a valid question and really the only way to improve.

How much did it matter when secret went undefeated at DAC running puppey on the same few heroes over and over in group stage.

Kitrak how are you not an analyst for TI didn't they call you? Not sure how they haven't they could really use a 5k future superstar elitist who changes his name two times a day.

So because i have 2.8k doto games and im not an international player i cant discuss international things? What kind of logic is that? Because EG had an awful draft in my opinion i am in no right to say that? Imagine Cristiano Ronaldo in the world cup missing a penalty and people say "Wow that was absolutely terrible" do you think anyone would respond to that person "Youre not at the world cup you only play division football so you have no right to say anything" lmao.

he had his reasons for this pick but how it played out makes it terrible

KITRAK "ive been an eg fan for a long time and honestly their recent play hasnt been super inspiring probably because fear hasnt had the impact he should be having which is partially due to picks and its basically just universe aui and sumail getting stuff done"

Why were you flaming people here regardless of mmr when you obviously agree on levels.....

@toeffelhelten
you can discuss anything you want as long as you know what you're talking about

which you don't in this case

It's a logic suited for your ape brain. Seriously this guy is LIGHT YEARS head of you in knowledge. Who do you think you are?

how can he be head, you have a head but you can't be a head, i am kungfused :/

^---why don't you just admit your a hypocrit because that quote from you proves your just some douch tard who has a superiority complex.

You rail and flame anyone on here that isn't 5k or a dotabuff forum cool club member. In fact those people I'm pretty sure you would put your tongue in their butt minus benao.

But thanks glad to see your quote in another thread just backs up some of what people you flamed here are saying.

And Jesus make up your mind on what your saying so I don't have to read through 3+ edits of you attempting to bash me the same way over and over.

No one said ppd sucks you retard. I mean scroll up and imagine your brain isn't looking for reasons to talk about mmr for a change.

OP says a draft is weak.

You yourself said the following:

KITRAK "ive been an eg fan for a long time and honestly their recent play hasnt been super inspiring probably because fear hasnt had the impact he should be having which is partially due to picks and its basically just universe aui and sumail getting stuff done"

I mean how about you use your brain for reading for a change instead of firing the same old flames.

No one said I'm wrong they said it's irrelevant and your a better player than me.

I've never claimed to be a better dota player than you in any post.

Also your quote is a similar polite way of saying what the original poster said so why waste your time flaming him. Oh right cause you bench more keyboards than him right?

I mean seriously just stop being a elitist on here all the time it's not like it's going on your resume or anything.

Plus how can I quote anything you say sometimes when you edit everything you type 3-4 times.

KITRAK "ive been an eg fan for a long time and honestly their recent play hasnt been super inspiring probably because fear hasnt had the impact he should be having which is partially due to picks and its basically just universe aui and sumail getting stuff done"

This is what you said and if you can honestly quote yourself highlight the part you leave out above regarding the picks.

I mean did you even think the original poster probably is an EG fan? I know I am.

Like I said your quote is a far more friendly but kind of on the same lines. I actually look forward to the PPD recap of why he did that draft for that game if he even wastes his own time doing it for group stage matches.

Now for you obviously for you to make a new account your old one wasn't desirable to you or you were stuck at some mmr roadblock and you bypassed it spamming heroes lots of people did in that time frame. That is something I can't be wrong on as one of those darts is factual.

The draft is bad just because of the Storm alone. They have no counters to it, neither do they against Lesh.

this thread is entertaining too, please kitrak sama and last picking is for ******* sama, continue

@why are 4ks so fucking st...

So because hes a better drafter than me and a better Dota player it also means he cant make mistakes? Let me again use the example from before, if i call out Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo for missing a penalty i cant say "wow that was a terrible penalty" because im not as good at soccer as them? What kind of logic is that? So if ure in a taxi and the driver drives off a cliff you dont have the right to tell him "wow that was bad" since hes a better taxi driver than u when hes been doing it for 30 years? Ok.

Sam—THANK YOU

For slight giggles....

http://www.dotabuff.com/topics/2015-07-20-whats-up-with-all-these-4k-average-games

Kitrak "notice that the only people that are even close to 5k that make the kind of "my teammates are noobs jaja xd" threads on this forum are benao and bogi and i flame both of them so i cant really flame more 5ks =p"

Or maybe this doesn't count because the words aren't exact match to "my teammates are noobs jaja xd" even though it is basically saying that.

You realize subject of this post is EG's draft right? meaning referencing just that one game.

But since you brought it up very exciting and played well. Let's all be honest if C9 was in EG's position they wouldn't have put that game 1 away against VG.