General Discussion

General DiscussionLets talk about Dire side again

Lets talk about Dire side again in General Discussion
altskop

    So you've heard about people getting in dire only after a winning streak? I have no actual idea how it really works and staff, but look at vroksnaks profiles and think about it again.
    http://www.dotabuff.com/players/174733177
    http://www.dotabuff.com/players/165061762

    ~ 130 games on Radiant side on average and more than 400 on Dire, and that really means something.

    Now if the Dire side is THAT bad, why wouldn't Icefrog balance it? Or why not to make it identical to Radiant?

    Just wanna see your thoughts folks.

    Seoulmate

      Vroksnak used to Ursa+Wisp abuse (with NinjaPigeon? Or was it with van-art?). They'd dodge whenever they got radiant and when they got dire did a level 1 rosh. Hence the ridiculous winrate on Dire

      altskop

        Its still roughly 50-60 matches on wisp out of ~700, though.

        altskop

          Bump

          GM_Kappablanca

            dota is not a balanced game for like 95 % of playerbrackets. the winrates stay close to 50 % cause of people making mistakes. on higher lvl of play the only couple of advantages of dire (ROSH, ezier to stack 2 camps at same time, better jukingwood behind tier 1 in safelane(top)) count much more than on low lvl play. so if icefrog would buff dire alot (say rework the ancient camp and put it up 1 stair lvl or make the jungle harder to gank) it would become unbalanced in 5,5+k and pro games.

            I have 60 % wr on radiant and 50 % on dire and i ve played from 3 to 4,5 k.
            I also play some junglers like Chen and Enigma which are better on radiant. Chen can convert on the big camp at radiant side from highground and make a quicker jungleprogression whereas 2nd dire big camp is miles away at the safelane. enigma can clear trees at big camp-small camp-medium camp triangle in radiant jungle with midnight pulse and farm 3 camps in 30 seconds with 1 eidolon usage and 1 midnight pulse. also can stack camps before. it gets rly quite significant farming speed. on dire u can also clear trees but u cant hit creeps from multiple camps with midnightpulse well.
            Overall becoming direside probably is quite the disadvantage 5k downwards so it might deserve some buff.

            bibi

              I like both side and i like their uniqueness. Shut the fuck up and make love to both of them.

              altskop

                ^^ And what do you think would happen if radiant and dire were identical?

                Dog

                  ^^ congratulations, you are now playing League of Lesbians.