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General DiscussionHow do I play arc warden?

How do I play arc warden? in General Discussion
Nile

    There are my recent arc warden games
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2673969347
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2675741584
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2675816607
    I rarely have micro problems, I'm more concerned about the general game plan and item decisions, I build shadow blade a lot, seems like it doesn't do much. The duration of tempest double is slightly to short for s pick off, I use it to push out one wave most of the time in mid game when I have bots and maelstrom.

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      Nile

        No I don't have that kind of problems

        Nile

          I never died because of failing micro, I played like shit in he first game, I did decent in the second game, in the third game I got ramped mid by venom bane and ls. And I couldn't jungle because we had a jungle lc who built 2 maelstrom before blink.

          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

            what i can see from the stats alone: your farming ability is terrible

            you don't push at all, you dont gank, you dont utilise the power of the hero

            long story short, you aren't doing anything properly except the itemization

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              Nile

                How do I farm on arc warden then? Should I rush Midas, maelstrom? Arc warden has bad right click damage early and mid game. In the last game Midas and lane creeps were my only source of income before boots of travel.

                Nile

                  Plz answer me, sir cookies

                  COINCOLLECTOR

                    Why u never buy silver edge and sell the midas later in the game 47min midas is not good on a item slot

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                    FHigh420HighE

                      One of the primary keys to arc warden is learning to lane with this hero, he is naturally harass and kill oriented in his play style and skills, but his damage is done over time. You need to focus on how to control the creep equilibrium in order for to finish with 40-50 last hits in 10 minutes and most likely 2 kills.

                      You should also know that the range of fluxs mute is 225 aoe, roughly double the range of melee and less than that of a morphling. the flux dmg can be used to steer the enemy laner in the direction you want them to go, use lvl 1 flux positioning your self to right click them if they move closer to creep wave using your 600 range to not aggro the creeps which have a 500 range aggro activation field.

                      by lvl 3 you should be able to put in enough dmg with flux and spark wraiths to land a kill by pushing the wave. From that point jungle farming is simple, this hero is primarily reliant on learning how to manipulate the enemy in lane with your dmg. Your buying a shadow blade because your behind enough that you can be easily bursted by intiation, where if you lane properly you won't need to buy a shadow blade unless your team feeds like 20 kills in 15 minutes which happens occasionally. those are my thoughts

                      Also you can easily get 3 attacks on the enemy laner without drawing creep aggro and should practice attacking under the 2 second creep aggro cool down.

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                      Nile

                        So I can get free attacks in after creep aggro? But doesn't creep aggro last 2 seconds? So it overlaps with the 2 second creeps aggro cool down, I don't get it.

                        Nile

                          Also isn't creep aggro global? Why is there a 500 range aggro activation field?

                          Thomsl

                            I like to play arc myself, the most important thing i can tell you:
                            play the farm game
                            all those little micro things u learn urself after some time, but a generally a good arc warden player always gets his midas relatively early and from that point on outfarms all heroes but maybe an alchemist, and when u get ur shadowblade or blink, just what u like to play u will be most likely able to onehit enemy heroes and create more space, adapt ur items further to the enemies and the game should be won easily,
                            even in ultra late, arc feels like 2 heroes cuz he is...