General DiscussionAdvices from high 4k/5k or 6k people. Need to know what could I do to...

your bld dmg in each game is like 1k more push->spin tp i guess.

in the fourth game you needed bkb

game 1: more farm and a better build

game 2: same

game 3: dear god you cant farm at all

game 4: what is with these item builds

dude, why do you build ganking items against lineups you can't gank/pickoff

you have no farm item nor did you try to farm, all you do is run around trying to find kills in games in which you cant

sb < dagger and ur playing late but build early fighting items

Seriously?

1- tell your team to go offlane or safelane and when they go near tower stun and slow them and attack the hero so the tower can hit him and then you farm fast and push together if you have the items you need to be unstoppable

2- stop antimage from farming and farm push faster with your team. antimage can't push if you outfarm him and stop him from farming you should have ended the game 20 min pushing mid. YOUR TEAMMATE FOCUSED OF KILLING THAN PUSHING. WOW INVOKER WENT JUNGLE AND HARASS THE BOTTOM LANE SAFE LANE. HOW COME YOU CAN'T STOP HIM YOUR SUPPORT NEVER BROUGHT THE RIGHT WARDS AND PLACE IT PROPERLY. PUSH HARASS 3 OF THEM TO DEFEND THEN HARASS ANTIMAGE BECAUSE ALL 3 OF THEM ARE ON BOTTOM AND IF THEY IGNORE YOU PUSH FOWARD YOU CAN DESTROY THE BARACKS REALLY QUICK IF YOU DONT HAVE FARM ITEMS THEN GO B AND DEFEND AND BUY IT FIRST.

3- SERIOUSLY YOUR SVEN YOUR A FARMER OFFLANER. WERE'S YOUR BLINK DAGGER AND SHADOW BLADE?

4- HUH BKB FOR INVOKER AND SLARK (DONT FEED SLARK HES CANCER REWORK SLARK) HOW COME YOU NEVER BUY BKB ON HEROES THAT HAVE MULTIPLE MAGIC AND YOU BUY BKB ON FEW STUNS AND WEAVER HAS LINKEN SPHERE WHATS WRONG WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAMMATES GET SOME SLEEP AND MOVE TO LOL OR STOP PLAYING FOR A WHILE AND GET A HOBBY.

Silver edge on 4th game? Really?
I'm not going to judge much since you're like 2k MMR higher for me but seriouslg why

Helm before treads [*]

actually you do get helm before treads in order to start stacking faster

~Cookie

Game I was mid, tried to get early game items so I can end faster because I was against Alch(that was my process of thinking).Farm could be better, yeah.

Game 2 was the offlane jugg, and thats the best I could do. Obviously a better player would've got a better farm, but i'm just a 4k, so, yeah.

Game 3 had really hard lane, didnt recover after it, did some terrible mistakes

Game 4 That's a good question, actually... Idk what I was thinking.

Can you sugest me items you'd get in my case? And what would you aim when it comes to farm? HOw much for cs 10/20 min?

i'm too lazy, i'd have to watch all these games to know what exactly happened since you played heroes out of their lanes in un-convential games.

remind me in 4 days

okay, will do

Look at this jugg

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2816157505

ur jugg builds are very meh
dont get sny at least untill the next major patch is released, particularly for jugg
dont get sb midgame when u r behind, u can only afford it when you are dominating or alrdy 5 slotted
dont skip diffusals, particularly against slark
if you want to get sb, dont go for silver edge afterwards; its a waste
if you want to play carries, learn to farm - u did it kinda bad in all the 4 games

ako mogu ja
1.jugger- imao si kasno ajteme realno a i nisi mogo nesto alch farmao riki blood isto jbg tu ne mozes nista da si uzeo battle fury mozda bi i nafarmo ajteme vako ne
2.Ne mozes sa tim ajtemima da prefarmas antija i imo si malo farma i slab tower dmg ako si vec isao na manfight juggera jbg i kasno ajteme si imao
3.Jbg kaunterovali su te dosta i bili ste meki lina nyx warlock su sprzeni od OD za 3 sekunde i ako nastakuje malo int svi su mrtvi niko ni ne sklapa bkb a imo si malo farma to ne smes nikad da dozvolis i ako gubis morad da nadjes da farmas pick up solo kill na lejnovima ako ovi push tvoju bazu odes na stranu rusis im tower ako suport dodje ubijes ga ako keri blink tp( ni ovu nisi mogo nikako da dobijes)
4.Opet malo farma vidis da taj build ne ide da si dodao mjolnir za farm i dmg umesto batle fury pa ajde promeni ajteme brt jugger moze da se builda na mnogo nacina ti zapeo za taj silver edge i bkb lmao

Nije moj posao bio da prefarmam antimejdza, covek je bio safelane ja sam bio off sa ES-om.

jugger moze da farma isto puno batle f ili mjolnir
svi gejmovi su bili teski da se dobiju jbg moras da promenis build i farm isto i tower dmg

item build is awful

get manta with diffusal for damage on jugg, don't keep healing ward at level 1 all game, and max cleave on sven first so you can farm. stats are fine early / mid game but later on +2 to all stats is insignificant, especially compared to the extra healing you get from levelling up healing ward.

and get iron talon if you can't farm. like you can probably get iron talon on every hero and it would be beneficial

I always max cleave on Sven. Will build Manta from now on tho. Ty.

4-2-1-2 on 11 Jugg with stats. Usually take 2nd Ward on 10 or so. Max Ward before Crit. Diffu and Manta >>> SnY.

I usually go manta but I thought sny is better for early fighting.. Ty for tips guys.

stop getting the same items on your jugg,think what you need against enemy