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General Discussionis razor very weak or underrated?

is razor very weak or underrated? in General Discussion
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    Schaffhausen

      good vs cores early game

      Skraa

        yes razer is overrated i prefer generic computer peripherals.
        <---- Trust me, 2kmmr player here.

        Dire Wolf

          very weak. outside of that 10 min lane phase he sucks. Doesn't snowball but his only option is to snowball really since he can't man fight late and can farm fast enough to go kill all the towers.

          Tutz^

            Insanely weak.

            Good in pushing lineups, but is worse than DP/Viper in almost any draft.

            Falls off really quick, gets raped by any other mid/carry past 35 mins. Has no way to comeback-farm either, has no way of picking off heroes too.

            Bad mid (he may win the lane, but is garbage straight after 10 mins of the game), bad safelane, can't even dual offlane, not even thinking to draft him as a support.

            Very weak skills.

            No place in E-sports, no place in pubs. No place in any lane.

            Needs_a_rework-tier hero.

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            Shou

              Tbh i think he has merit in lineups were he just completely obliterates their main carry mid jugg or something, while his own luna just carries the game afterwards. I do think he needs a buff tho, and i wud probably increase link break range, and make the field slow while its touching you. Razor does get underestimated in certain games, where most dmg is physical or thru only one right clicker, but usually he is weak.

              Tutz^

                You can pick any ranged lane destroyer to dumpster Jug mid.

                Why pick Razor to destroy a Jug lane, when you can pick a hero that will destroy the lane AND be better later on?

                Razor is outclassed even in the good spots he has.

                TheMaverick427

                  I think in almost any situation that you would want to pick Razor, you could instead pick Viper who is also a tanky lane dominator but who isn't useless the moment laning phase is over.

                  Muffinman

                    Well, I've played Razor over a variety of metas in different skill brackets with different playstyles and different item builds. It's not that he's particularly underrated.
                    He might be somewhat weak, but that is only because his skillset doesn't scale well into beyond 35 minutes, and if you want to transition into a heavy right clicker after that, you have to have the farm to secure that transition.

                    Also, this is my opinion, but a lot of people don't find him fun to play, and as a result, he doesn't get picked a lot. When he does get picked, teammates don't know what to do with him because very few people have experience playing/playing alongside a Razor.

                    Massive Dynamic

                      Very very very situational hero.

                      Shou

                        Ye but razor imo is better lategame than razor, i mean if he gets behind and the enemy has a lot of dmg he can use it against them. Kinda like axe blademail call but more single target. Viper falls off harder imo. I just dont win with viper past 35 min, but i do with razor.

                        Seoulmate

                          razor imo is better lategame than razor

                          eclessia

                            Only if the enemy team have 5 svens

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                            Jacked

                              Raj??

                              basement :)

                                Yes but razor personally is better lategame than razor

                                What?

                                Shou

                                  Lmao i meant better than viper. Im fucking retarded lmfao

                                  Beks

                                    Yes but razor personally is better lategame than razor

                                    Story Time

                                      Did you mean "Yes but viper personally is better lategame than viper" ??
                                      PS I am so confused

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                                      Feichang Gaoxing

                                        Maybe its "Yes but razor personally viper lategame than razor"???

                                        Cheap Laugh Guy

                                          Pick him only for enemy lineup that has single unit target skills that you can escape with purge
                                          The damage steal duration isn't really rewarding though :/

                                          And yeah I put him in the same category with Viper too
                                          Carries that can solo kill early game
                                          Except that Razor needs a lil more farm than Viper to work, coz you can't chase too far for a kill :/ Same concept for Gyro's homing missile

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                                            He is just really boring to play

                                            Perte

                                              i totally agree with daddy about razor being better lategame than razor

                                              Dire Wolf

                                                I think a 6 slotted razor is a beast actually, the problem is getting there. Aghs + refresher combo means passively he's doing 11k dmg and can just run around kiting while it kills towers and heroes.

                                                6 slotted with some tank and dmg items like travels, aghs, refresher, skadi, heart, ac/butterfly, he's pretty damn strong and dropping most teams, but how the fuck does he farm all that? Mid game he might have like yasha, aquila, and be starting on aghs while enemy carries can 3 shot him. And he has no way to farm creeps. Plasma field is ok dmg for it but the mana cost he can't spam it.

                                                lol lol lol

                                                  No, I think viper is stronger than viper. I meant, viper can easilly kill hero, get more gold and can buy razor gaming laptop which better than razor

                                                  Erase Humanity

                                                    Gillette® has to buff this hero.

                                                    Von Darkmoor

                                                      Actually Razor is pretty fun play, Alch/Drow/Luna/Sven/Juggernaut on the otherhand oh jolly those are truly boring heros to play insanely boring.

                                                      Zeus vs Jugg i learned mainhand is terrible unless someone ganks. Waste all the mana you want he will just heal it, 350 range instant Bladeflurry = dead.

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                                                        Ye but razor imo is better lategame than razor

                                                        hmm really makes you think :thinking:

                                                        Spader

                                                          Razor is very much fun to play. But not the best option. There is other better heroes than Razor in this meta.

                                                          Player 368673122

                                                            razor is a lane maintainer, from my experience most razors chase and dive with static link early cause it's op but it's left at lvl 2 until you're 8+ for a reason
                                                            don't run with them and steal all their damage for the kill, run back and deny, keep the lane in your favour and deny their safelane/mids (razer as a safelane pos1 is fucking awful cause, just cause)

                                                            play him safely as a lane controller and keep them on 0 cs, eventually youll find yourself getting ganked or chipping away at their tower cause they've left the lane
                                                            quite possibly the easiest hero when wanting to deal with the powerhouse mids like ta and od where you just can't get near creep waves without a prison or refract harrasses
                                                            with od - static link and a value point in your passive as when he prisons you, he'll be slowed and the link remains intact - same with meld

                                                            bearcat0611

                                                              razor is much weaker than viper is late game. I honestly think that viper doesnt fall off in the late game as most people think. Razor on the other hand does fall off really hard. If you dont get off a full static link you will often lack right click damage to actually fight and if razor is your only right clicker, you are screwed.

                                                              Sarllo

                                                                WEAK, his 1st skill is a trash, link and counter are situational.. ultimate is trash.. he is pretty tanky but thats all

                                                                Player 368673122

                                                                  his 1st skill is trash... what the fuck...
                                                                  ... what the fuck
                                                                  lets not give credit to the skill that you use most; to flash farm ranged creeps, to burst whilst getting chased or better yet, to chase WITH VISION AND RIGHT CLICK IN FOG, to pretty much use like a shivas guard without the slow...
                                                                  what the fuck

                                                                  Player 368673122

                                                                    it's also worth noting that he does indeed fall off greatly later in the game when it's more about sieging than hero kills which is why scepter is almost always the go-to after dragon lance/situational items where he does more kiting than right clicking to rax

                                                                    Von Darkmoor

                                                                      @新手

                                                                      You said it before me lol! Yeah that ulti is really good at pushing with Aghs, the nuke is really good early on and the vision is gold in later stages he do however rely a lot on the static link but imo most people never get critts personly i dont get it.
                                                                      Critts and static link SnY perhaps bkb and aghs and your very very stronk will critt very hard but you need cc to really make use of him.

                                                                      Also you cant let the game take 50min + like in most low mmr games cause then afk shit like Phantom afk shittsin and Anti Win afk, Naga for good afk times or Alch for even more afk time or sven or jugger for some good ol afk farm go to sleep game.

                                                                      Shou

                                                                        Razor has better late game than viper