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General DiscussionForcestaff BS back?

Forcestaff BS back? in General Discussion
Shou

    That build looks interesting but idk if aether lens is needed. Cudnt that be an sb, or a faster bkb, or even echo sabre.

    CUTNPASTE

      It is hard to see why bs offlane works unless you've played against it before.

      https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2745095759

      You do realise pulling the melee creeps back onto your ranged tends to push the wave as your creeps will keep hitting theirs the whole time before your creeps aggro onto the ranged creep anyway? Not to mention it makes it very easy for the offlaner to deny the ranged creep which is terrible generally.

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      Shou

        I just dont understand how you zone a bs lvl 1 with a pms.

        casual gamer

          guess id have to see it in action

          basement :)

            JDF8, I have no access to Dota currently, but it seemed as though the BS fed hard and got carried? He has significantly lower kill participation than his team. Also, was he even playing as a support?

            Daddy, I said 20 and 25 because I thought Blood Rite damage was bad. If the team is coordinated, they can easily erase people.

            casual gamer

              he won the game off one hg defense where ls got fucked by lv 4 rupture

              at one point one bloodrite did almost my whole hp pool as venge shits crazy

              but they got carried by ta who appears to be 6/7k smurf or some shit

              pingwin

                bs is one of the strongest 1v1 laner but once someone else shows up hes fucked.
                i think force staff bs can work bs with aghs and even dagon (jerax has done that but in elemination mode or cd, still pro game)
                but in pubs anything can work

                basement :)

                  My main problem was being unable to effectively run him in the laning phase. If he can off lane effectively as CUTNPASTE says, it could be worth trying.

                  3asybash2k

                    i think jungle is still the best for bs. i dont really understand the comments about enemy sups who will punish this. bs is actually nearly always full hp while jungling. only at lvl 1 and 2 he might have problems.
                    and pls stop saying that u have weak lanes when bs is in jungle. dont tell me that u cant lane as 4 for 5 mins till bs gets his rupture and shits on anyone.
                    also look at the top bs players. the vast majority is jungling with him. pos 1,2 bs is bad idea in my opinion because why u would steal this position from ur team when u can farm the same amount in the jungle?

                    Shou

                      Thing with the bloodrite damage is that it is pure