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fvcker

    for your information my friend found this new item builds
    he build vanguard on venge after buy boots
    let me know what do you think

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    doc joferlyn simp

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      doc joferlyn simp

        Vanguard on ranged heroes is a bad idea, Vanguard blocks physical damage yes but for ranged heroes it is reduced, like the Basher bash chance reduction.

        The Vengeful Spirit in the said match would have been more impactful if he made something like a Pike. Still gives decent utility but the stats allows VS to actually hit hard, if not heroes then at least towers.

        In terms of Crimson Guard as a necessity because you're facing something retarded like PL - TB - Beastmaster in the same team then Necro, even Ogre would have been better alternative carriers to CG because they are tankier. Not only that but if you are making CG on VS you are wasting so much of her carry potential.

        Perhaps Vlads or HotD would be smarter choices for VS, the auras given is the same whether ranged or melee and staying in the back lines ensures that the team makes the most of the auras during a teamfight.

        Beks

          whenever i have venge or silencer suport in team they always go dominator and pike and its right

          Shou

            Venge carry goes domi pike almost every game, after that u can go sb or deso or butterfly or bkb or satanic or whatever, but venge doesnt need to be tanky, she needs to deal dmg. As for tankiness she can buy skadi or satanic. A vang is actually fucking useless.

            1-IceTea 🌟

              Perhaps Vlads or HotD would be smarter choices for VS, the auras given is the same whether ranged or melee

              fyi Vladimir lifesteal is lesser on range hero

              Cheap Laugh Guy

                Solar Crest and Hurricane Pike is enough

                Shou

                  ^ye if u want a similar cost item thats just better for venge buy a lance. Gives hp like vang but also some armor thru agi, and dmg and attack speed and the agi dmg gets multiplied by her passive bonus dmg and the range helps cuz venge doesnt have any.

                  doc joferlyn simp

                    fyi Vladimir lifesteal is lesser on range hero

                    I stand corrected. However, the aura still remains at full strength for melee heroes, so even if you are a ranged support/hero carrying it, the aura affecting the other melee cores is still 15% compared to your 10%.

                    blueee

                      that's bad

                      GLARE

                        that's bad

                        jinzo

                          honestly in normal skill a lot of things can work, when I played in ns I saw desolator dazzle's and deadalus + butterfly BH
                          4Head

                          fvcker

                            venge is exception

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                            Shou

                              Hey man
                              Deso was made for dazzle
                              https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2647012579
                              Kappa