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meteor hammer

    can someone explain to me what's happening

    XD
    mad af

    Sia

      Lmao jacked nice scores

      meteor hammer

        now i feel like ive set him up for failure but honestly i think pas great and isnt she super op in that bracket anyway

        Jacked

          Don't mind those scores. It's what happens when you can't be fkd to tryhard or play Dota properly. Also PA is shit but I'm still learning how to play the hero. I've wasted like 10 games not learning anything and just pressing buttons.

          Jacked

            I still have 0 clue how to lane this hero

            arin
              meteor hammer

                stand on ur hg and spam dagger, buy blight

                use creep aggro to get cs, blur 1 + pms means you take less damage from harass

                any rotation is a kill against plenty of mids, especially shit like sf, invoker 1 stun from an ally and theyre toast. at 6/7 you can dive but for a hero like sf you prob. want a raindrop and full hp, and it all depends on who has a level advantage

                arin

                  i want to try medallion sometime but im not sure when would i buy it
                  like straight after phase blight wand (aquila) or so

                  Jacked

                    I play PA safelane though

                    Jacked

                      I seem to always do well pa mid against easy heroes like invok sniper. But I'm always over aggressive with positioning because I'm winning and feed because I overestimate her tankiness. But I don't like mid lane so much. It's much harder to get kills on offlaner as a safelane pa though. I've faced way too many timbers lately

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                      arin

                        both is fine

                        Jacked

                          I need to refer my teammates to this thread. "Omg who first picks pa gg"

                          Sia

                            please dont pick arc warden > goes double mid

                            Shou

                              i cant pick storm without my whole team feeding or losing unlosable lanes
                              how does a timber lose lane to legion + slark???????

                              Jacked

                                Essence shift I'm guessing + magic Nuke

                                Fee Too Pee

                                  "how does a timber lose lane to legion + slark???????"

                                  THIS , SO MUCH

                                  MY TIMBER DIE TO A SOLO SLARK?? HOW??/ I WILL NEVER KNOW

                                  Sia

                                    watch replay u will learn

                                    meteor hammer

                                      oov fast boot walk to him after chain and pounce easy

                                      arin
                                        meteor hammer

                                          https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3353825034

                                          if only puck didnt flame pa into abandoning :(

                                          arin

                                            i dunno i reached 4.9 and again im matched with at least one absolutel insufferable teammate that drags entire team into flaming each other

                                            meteor hammer

                                              i tell people to mute each other and play but i dont think it's very effective as far as damage control goes, all i can do besides that is be aggressively positive and convince people we are going to win

                                              yes most dedicated dota players are neurotic as fuck, 4ks in particular because some of them have huge inferiority complexes

                                              arin

                                                idk how to stop dying with tinker when enemy run around the map and actually play dota

                                                Jacked

                                                  god when will the flaming stop?

                                                  arin

                                                    i suppose i should get rid of this urge to just go and tp somewhere instead of waiting for a while and doing nothing if i dont see anyone on the map

                                                    arin


                                                      we lost boys

                                                      Chiwa

                                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3355953581
                                                        Hey guys i miss 2 chrono so im gonna destroy my item cuz we lost anyway :^)

                                                        casual gamer

                                                          to not die as tinker know where they are when theyre in fog xd

                                                          helps if they dont pick cw veno sb visage etc all extremely strong rn

                                                          one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                            how can u know where they are when theyre in fog
                                                            unless u use analytical analysis and deep psycological warfare but there are few who can do it

                                                            casual gamer

                                                              glimpses of where they were before, knowing what they are trying to do

                                                              if you have 1 t1 up and they are ahead they will probably be pushing, if nobody has showed in 3 minutes and they have a cw they are probably waiting on you in the last lane you saw them, if they shove lanes past a cliff they couldve dropped an obs there

                                                              if its 18 minutes in and ta has deso theyre roshing

                                                              the most important fundamental is knowing that if you show on the minimap in a lane they will almost certainly be there between 15 and 30 seconds later, especially in a high mmr game

                                                              as tinker you probably get a handful of free passes where they dont rotate because they dont see ur icon, but then they adjust and will rotate after the first wave you march

                                                              its easy when they only have 1 hero that can kill you, and its something like a vs where she has to wave you and then get close enough to swap and then have help to actually disable and kill you

                                                              what sucks is when its sb+veno+clock where theres 2 people who can disable blink from a huge range and they have 2 ways to get flying vision in trees and 2 long range stuns, and if you show in any teamfight (aka cast missile in fog) and dont blink within 1 second you get hookshotted unless the cw is a mongol

                                                              even worse when they have the long range stuns + viper, march or missile disables your blink after .25s or some shit so basically you cast and then blink immediately, then rearm blink before casting again

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                                                              casual gamer

                                                                shit what i meant to say is

                                                                🍪Cooki🍪 - dnes v 18:28
                                                                holy shit
                                                                i just noticed
                                                                i literally understand everything these pro's are doing
                                                                i thought it was impossible for me to understand them with my level of knowledge
                                                                so i never watched pro games
                                                                i litereally exactly know what's gonna happen in advance
                                                                omg this is so simple
                                                                like idk how to explain
                                                                but if you were to apply a 2 tier counter to a 7-8k pub match
                                                                you'd get a pro match

                                                                Väinämöinen

                                                                  eeeeeh 4th game in a row with someone picking afk jungle and flaming teammates with caplocks in allchat pickingphase.

                                                                  does that have anything to do with summer break in europe kicking in or what the hell is going on

                                                                  one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                                    why are there tbd mid lc with phase drums thats unable to press w on herself to dispel astral succ, lastpick am into either brood or wr+1 offlane who didnt even get bf at the end of the game and "support" necro with aghs rush and all 3 of them get placed into my team

                                                                    but hey enemy had fp jungle brood so it balances out right?

                                                                    one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                                      mmm and the next ame we get first random carry naga + jungle alchemist sweet

                                                                      Sia

                                                                        Just wanted to say i defeated jdf8 1v1 arc warden i have 2 half sane witnesses

                                                                        Sia

                                                                          unless u use analytical analysis and deep psycological warfare but there are few who can do it

                                                                          Xd sht i really laughed. no offense
                                                                          to u it's the cookie reference xd

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                                                                          Jacked

                                                                            offlane spectre says 'trust me'

                                                                            Shou

                                                                              Dude if timber just stnds in creeps by lvl 3 he is impossible to zone
                                                                              U don't even need a chain point cuz u can use whirling death to cripple legion and just sit like a fat fuck in the creeps.

                                                                              Shou

                                                                                Every fucking time someone makes an autism pick, they say "trust me" and then we lose
                                                                                Sometimes I fucking despise my bracket, even tho I know if I was good at dota I wud love to be in this bracket.

                                                                                meteor hammer

                                                                                  Just wanted to say i defeated jdf8 1v1 arc warden i have 2 half sane witnesses

                                                                                  this is slander

                                                                                  Väinämöinen

                                                                                    5th game i a row with a jungler

                                                                                    2 allies say ''dude where is he supposed to go if you are solo offlane and he cant jungle" i am literally getting matched with people that havent played dota in 2 years

                                                                                    strangely i never had junglers, recently i played like 10 ranked games where i got 4 recommends every game, thats gabens reward for being a good and friendly player it seems

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                                                                                    arin


                                                                                      really activates my almonds

                                                                                      ywn

                                                                                        getting 5k before arin

                                                                                        arin

                                                                                          how many of you are going to join forces in my public humiliation

                                                                                          faw

                                                                                            arin im mmr donator, mby ill snipe u again soon

                                                                                            faw

                                                                                              but im on the verge of getting lp atm so i cant right now sry mmr donation machine broke

                                                                                              ywn

                                                                                                understandable

                                                                                                Shou

                                                                                                  Have a nice day

                                                                                                  Sia

                                                                                                    lmao the percentage of games ruined by game ruiners is higher than before

                                                                                                    arin

                                                                                                      maybe there is a chance
                                                                                                      im hanging on this rating for longer than before, usually i instatilted and lost the mmr in span of two days but im still 4.8