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General DiscussionSome Arc Warden questions

Some Arc Warden questions in General Discussion
VISHNU

    1. When do I get Octarine Core? I've seen Vaxa going for it & I don't get it. It feels to me that there are always better items.
    2. When do I get Boots of Travel (I do Vaxa's build - Phase-Midas-Maelstrom)? I think it's more a farming item, isn't it? I've seen Vaxa getting it, when he was pressured a lot early on & couldn't leave a base, so he used it for getting farm. Am I wrong?
    3. How to get objectives as him? I struggle a lot to finish the game, even when I'm farmed.
    4. Why Diffusal over Orchid? Isn't Orchid into Bloodthorn more superior?
    5. How to play against Phantom Lancer, Chaos Knight? I struggle a lot if the enemy has those 2 heroes. Mjollnir doesn't seem enough to deal with them.
    6. Flux talent over AS talent. Why get Flux over AS? I've seen Vaxa sometimes getting it.
    7. How does AW counter Necro? I've read that Cookie once said that it's a big counter. In lane he is stronger than AW, isn't he? Late for sure AW is great vs him, but I don't think you can shut down him in the lane. Am I wrong?

    Friendly player

      The boots of travel can be useful either in farming or pushing

      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

        1. good against heroes that you can't survive against easily, like lycan

        very good combo with shiva or blademail, alternatively against super push strats to non stop spam magnetic.

        2. you get it later on in the game after some other items like diffusal, shadow blade, mjolnir

        3. watch vaxa and pay attention to when he pushes '-'

        mostly it's jsut magnetic the illusion, then spark wraith highground tower and hit it, then magnetic illusion again.

        4. orchid/bloodthorn is unreliable, only good if your teamfight focus target is a support

        also half the meta heroes get countered by diffusal, especially necro and shakira.

        5. mjol + hurricane, if you still have problems get a diffusal/shadowblade/shiva/butter depending on the game

        maybe even linken/bkb, but i really feel like they're a waste of a slot.

        6. if you can easily early game fight, i personally don't get it, enemy needs to have basically almost nothing that can disable it controlled units/ illusions/ magic immunity etc.

        7. diffusal + sb, you just run into the jungle and shit on him, he never gets items.

        since your diffusal has unlimited charges, necro is your bitch.

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        Cнейкмонгер

          Why is manta style a bad item on arc warden?
          I remember seeing SG-Esports Arc Warden clone solo-killing enemy cores using Manta and Bloodthorn.

          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

            please don't make me explain this again, just accept that it's bad.