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General DiscussionInstead of being innovative valve keeps doing the shit that kills the...

Instead of being innovative valve keeps doing the shit that kills the game. in General Discussion
Nile

    Everyone know how to counter invis heroes, except it's fucking expensive. Instead of buffing detection. They nerf riki and weaver and leave a spell with free deward in the game. Good Job valve, the game is more balanced now.

    Lokieleven

      Valve only looks at pro games and numbers. With artifact coming out I’m sure valve is not too worried about any major patches that really cause them to focus on Dota. Next major patch will prob be when next hero releases. For now it is just whatever they want to do

      Riguma Borusu

        the hero had 58% global winrate and 54.5% even in 5k+ with a decent pickrate

        the hero deserved a heavy nerf

        also nerfs have nothing to do with detection here, and both weaver and riki were plenty strong even without the invis aspect

        Mega Killer, Master Baiter

          Valve doesn't need to buff detection you just need to grow a fucking spine and buy a gem, learning not to die helps.

          Nile

            Do you enjoy spending all of your gold covering the map with sentries for the entire game? The causes for riki and weaver's high wr is tools like blink strike, tricks of the trade, and time laps. Those tools made killing them require EXTRA DETECTION. Now imagine riki and weaver without invis.

            Nile

              you still need wards when you buy a gem. If that wasn't elementary enough.

              MuLLi

                Yeah and they nerfed treant like treant is the invi hero unbalanced.

                ywn

                  Do ppl really expect artifact to be more popular than dota? Xd

                  cartel

                    mr simba please rikis talents were a joke
                    the smoke nerf is a bit too much tho....we wont be seeing riki again in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time

                    cartel

                      i didnt mean to make that joke

                      Doubt

                        Instead of seeing this nerf as a downside and bitching about it . I'll take it as a challenge and prove that the hero can still stomp asses in the right hands

                        Coroner

                          Instead of seeing this nerf as a downside and bitching about it . I'll take it as a challenge and prove that the hero can still stomp asses in the right hands

                          well ofc it can, just not as often as before, which is essential part of nerfing heroes you know

                          Obey me I is your new dic...

                            i didnt mean to make that joke

                            Hahahaha...

                            Please go back to Mars

                            cartel

                              whats wrong with you dude leave me alone

                              Retnuh Flim

                                sents are actually expensive :( but i think when they increase the range of sents, its a huge buff easy for obs to be dewards etc

                                Kotato

                                  ded gaem

                                  Riguma Borusu

                                    make sentries have a movement speed of 100

                                    cartel

                                      ^only way to revive ded gaem

                                      Obey me I is your new dic...

                                        ^only way to revive ded gaem

                                        It'll die after you do

                                        Tribo

                                          reddit jokes 4What

                                          DC.MASON

                                            now all that's left is nerfing phoenix and dota will be good

                                            Tribo

                                              ^A BIG yes that shit unbalanced

                                              Lokieleven

                                                @karthasis
                                                No, however, valve is a geeedy company, it is new, people will buy it, so valve has a bigger focus on that game rather than Dota currently. Valve is a business after all, regardless if it is less popular than Dota it is money in their pockets.

                                                Tortle

                                                  When people forget that sentries had a duration increase of 2 minutes. Also, would you like to make a suggestion as to ways to buff detection instead of just complaining.

                                                  Nile

                                                    reduce the cost?

                                                    Nile

                                                      dust is fucking expensive btw.

                                                      cartel

                                                        @ethreal thanks....i guess?

                                                        Feachairu

                                                          the only problem with invi heroes is that yo uneed to rely on friends to counter it,and it uses your inventory slot
                                                          valve should add a "ward&dust backpack" that is pressable at any moment

                                                          Riguma Borusu

                                                            ^yeah somehow invis heroes (and items) get stupid OP lategame when nobody has slots for detection, let alone multiple types of it

                                                            Hupples

                                                              @Feachairu, Even making wards/dust usable from the current backpack would be an improvement.

                                                              Peekaboo

                                                                Remember when observer wards cost 300? - 150
                                                                Remember when sentries lasted 2 mins and didn't stack with observer wards, so supports needed 2 item slots for it..
                                                                remember when Couriers cost 200 gold
                                                                Remember when you had to buy flying courier for 220 gold
                                                                Remember when Gems were destroyable so if you lost it you'd actually lose it
                                                                Remember when Scan's didn't exist
                                                                Remember when bounties didn't exist so supports had no way to accumulate gold
                                                                remember when Talents didn't exist so supports didn't get gpm talents

                                                                Supports have it easy nowadays, they're arguably the most buffed role in recent times.. Sentries are OP right now, watch any high level game and look at how many are on the map.

                                                                Stone Cold Steve Austin

                                                                  Yeah, I don't understand why would people think Artifact is gonna be a big thing.
                                                                  I just wish they never released another braindead copycat game.

                                                                  Feachairu

                                                                    look its not about supports,its about i as a friggin core can bring my own dust when i got all my items alrd

                                                                    Feachairu

                                                                      i even buy sentries as mid honestly,i dont even care abut my team

                                                                      Feachairu

                                                                        @hupples yea or dat

                                                                        CoL.Limmp

                                                                          Just remove zeus ulti show wards on map and all fine

                                                                          inx4c

                                                                            Why is it so hard to buy 50 sentries as a support in a team game when playing against heroes that rely on invis.
                                                                            Like what the actual fuck?
                                                                            Just buy the fucking sentries and win the game coz enemy has a fucking useless riki weaver clinkz whatever. Just need a support to realize that :)

                                                                            Obey me I is your new dic...

                                                                              @ethreal thanks....i guess?

                                                                              You shall kneel before thanking me you bastard

                                                                              i even buy sentries as mid honestly,i dont even care abut my team

                                                                              You just cared about them when you don't care about them.

                                                                              A

                                                                                So many people want invis hero to be dead...