You will most certainly have a higher MMR. I can guarantee it.
On my old account, I have about 1000 games. My calibration MMR was at 4300. After I got a lot better, I created this account and got calibrated at 5000. I have maintained it since the beginning of rank.
I just had the worst KotL on a luna game...
1. He started with 2 ironwood branches, 1 buckler recipe (what?) , 1 headress recipe(what?)
2. He went safelane with my luna and keeps on nuking the wave into a huskar, ES offlane (I didn't get any farm because I will just die if I don't stick close to my tower)
3. He didn't understand any english
4. I had to abandon lane and go jungle on luna because of him. Our warlock was fed up with the game and just abandoned 14 minutes in. Thank god...
The next game was one of the best ones i've played so far. The supports were really high skilled and roamed all game long and got kills.
http://dotabuff.com/players/6679589
This is the rubik that was in the game. He was an exceptional player.
Mistmare and his friend (the numbers guy) are both over 5k MMR (i believe they're in the low 5k range), I've run into them before in page 2-3 games
I'm kind of surprised at the MMR ranges enforced in unranked, it seems like ever since the introduction of ranked, most games in unranked can have up to 1000+ mmr ranges even if ur solo queuing at 4000 MMR (which is ur estimate). In ranked, you'd have between 3700-4300 teammates in like 80% of ur games. It might explain why the 4 stacks that I keep getting paired with are beyond awful.
also i can't really comment on playing support but if u play a good offlane phoenix/centaur/timbersaw u can easily rape many 1v2 lanes, i've won so many games just by picking phoenix post-nerf cuz he dominates in teamfights if ur supernova positioning isn't retarded
playing a hard carry like spec/pl is actually not a good idea if you're solo queuing since you have to rely on teammates to win the early game for you as they have very little lane control and need at least 2 good items after treads before even thinking of coming near a teamfight. i guess if u massively outskill the opposition u can win regardless, but that's usually not the case
It's quite fun smurfing. I'm definitely learning a lot from these really high skilled players and the amount of impact they can enforce onto a game. I have to pull my own weight and give it my 110% every game no matter what position I play. This is a much better learning environment than playing on my main's account.
..Of course, this is all with the exception of a few trash players like that KoTL. But overall, better quality games.
Aren't you generalizing your judgement based off of one SK game?... I had to play solo support and as the initiator. Plus when you look at the Hero damage of the terror blade, it shouldn't be lower than the SK with less farm.
Just putting this out there, my main is 3450 MMR. This smurf is ~5.1k and I'm still winning 70% of my games in the past 10 games (all in ~5k)...
Not everyone is placed properly to begin with. Myself, I played 90% of my games on my main with my bad friends for fun. You'd think after 70 games it would be dropping me closer to 3.4 not pushing me higher and higher.. right?
terrorblade's main job is to push towers not to teamfight - if the other team can quickly clear out his images and stunlock him he's going to die in 3 seconds (despite his high armor) due to his vulnerability to magic damage.
i have no idea how hollaholla got those numbers if he hasn't even finished 10 placement matches. you have 6 games in ranked and u need 10 to know ur MMR
Looks like you're going up against mostly low 4k/high 3k players in ur calibration matches while stacking with a friend (party =/= solo mmr), i have no idea why you think ur 5k lol
i don't get why people think they can just get to 5k from 3.5k or whatever their MMR is over the course of a few weeks. unless you're exceptionally talented at this type of game you're going to take years and years of practice before being able to reach 5k, because that's how the game is designed: to have a steep learning curve.
i can see how a 3.5k player might think he can perform acceptably at 4k, but 5k? must be fucking delusional or something
That is because you playing NP or Venomancer is no pressure on your team, look at the times you have tried to play core heroes you've simply done nothing. I am not saying you're a terrible player I am just saying that you basically play heroes where with or without you your team stand a chance of winning, putting you on a carry or mid in that bracket is suicide for you and your team so you stick to doing what gets you buy.
I mean no insult by saying this I am just stating that with a lot of people who go "I smurfed to 5k and I survive fine" but looking over your games you aren't shining at all. Heroes like venomancer and NP are bound to have impact no matter how bad the player is as one can just split push and the other (if you're unskilled) hits Q and R and voila, impact.
Consider that I have 60%+ win rates on both of these heroes and have over 90-150 games as they're just massively game impacting without you even having to do much. Most smurf accounts that are above what they should be aren't thriving, they're surviving and this doesn't mean that you were assigned a dud rating and that you belong in 5k because by that same right so does everyone else.
Retarded smurfs (+ compendium) are the most annoying thing these days. I'm at ~4.8k and people with < 100 wins ruin every third game. You can clearly see that they don't just have a bad game.
Initially, you ruin the games of new players that might never play dota again (hurting everyone) and later you'll ruin the games when you get rated too high.
If you want that 4k, play your main and continue having 60% win and stop being part of the dota 2 cancer. Shouldn't take too long to get up, if you belong there.
going through all the effort of playing a bunch of games then calibrating maybe 500 mmr higher by playing op heroes etc (not to mention ruining games at higher level if your not good enough)... wouldn't it just be easier to play op heroes on your main?
I don't think a 3k guy can smurf up to 5k and maintain it , 2k is a huge difference and you will eventually get destroyed. Why people just won't try to raise the mmr on their main account.
Sunrise, cause if u know u are in the not correct MMR it's so boring lost your time in awful games when the smurf games are 10 times better than your main acc games.
Sampson is angry with the world cause he thinks all the ppl have the correct MMR the first time.
For example, i was in 2k and dthe ppl was buying boots after the min 15, and they calling me noob cause i pick windruner and pa in mid.
And i had to suffer it every game.
Also, every fucking game i had a pudge that dont want to let me mid and i had to go lane with a stupid retard who try to get lasthits pushing the lane all he can.
Man, must of the time i disagree with Sampson beucase you know, fuck him, but the more i play the more i find AWFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL players thinking they are way better than their team because of x reasons, the worst part is that you can " feel " how bad they are.
Dota is turning more and more into a single player game for me, i am so tired of listening to the bullshit of my team that i just click on mute chat button and done.
"Also, every fucking game i had a pudge that dont want to let me mid and i had to go lane with a stupid retard who try to get lasthits pushing the lane all he can."
because you have to go mid as WR and PA right? cant fit into the team line up. You would rather force the crappy pudge to go offlane or safelane than take it yourself with heroes that can do it better? :D You must have some bad luck because i rarely get people not buying any boots till 15 mins and im sure there are people arguing over lanes at every mmr
If you play 4 games per day on average, 7 days a week that's 28 games. If you are as good as you say going 65% is about 18-10. At 25 pts a win or loss that's up 400 points a week. So you should easily be able to raise your mmr up to where you assume it should be in a month.
Can u read sampson?
''Dorkyl, a week ago, my real mmr was 2k or less, now i feel like a good player, ok im not 4k but of course not 2k and its all thanks to smurf.''
Where do u get your conclusion about my suposed 5k?
I would have to disagree with Sampson aswell clearly the guy is doing at least OK, obviously everyone will have a bad game once in a while but I think the experiment is a good idea to take a clearer look at yourself and your playstyle. This is a game and since he is enjoying it more playing on a smurf let him smurf. And he IS playing high impact heros AND doing fine at the same time so hes not exactly "getting by".
I doubt you can compare him to the likes of X6 whos just clearly a fucking idiot.
well no doubt X6 is the most retarded trash tier player to ever post on these but it does not change the fact that this guy's experiment does nothing but ruin games for everyone.
its like if I joined Cloud 9, I would gain a ton of experience and it would be fun for me BUT I would be fucking up their matches with my lack of skill
Smurfing is selfish and ruins the game for 9 other people
You know what my life, my smurfs, you will not stop my smurfs. And really i just have 1, the other 1 is for have phun with my brother doing the Magnus+Io combo
You will most certainly have a higher MMR. I can guarantee it.
On my old account, I have about 1000 games. My calibration MMR was at 4300. After I got a lot better, I created this account and got calibrated at 5000. I have maintained it since the beginning of rank.
I just had the worst KotL on a luna game...
1. He started with 2 ironwood branches, 1 buckler recipe (what?) , 1 headress recipe(what?)
2. He went safelane with my luna and keeps on nuking the wave into a huskar, ES offlane (I didn't get any farm because I will just die if I don't stick close to my tower)
3. He didn't understand any english
4. I had to abandon lane and go jungle on luna because of him. Our warlock was fed up with the game and just abandoned 14 minutes in. Thank god...
The next game was one of the best ones i've played so far. The supports were really high skilled and roamed all game long and got kills.
http://dotabuff.com/players/6679589
This is the rubik that was in the game. He was an exceptional player.
Mistmare and his friend (the numbers guy) are both over 5k MMR (i believe they're in the low 5k range), I've run into them before in page 2-3 games
I'm kind of surprised at the MMR ranges enforced in unranked, it seems like ever since the introduction of ranked, most games in unranked can have up to 1000+ mmr ranges even if ur solo queuing at 4000 MMR (which is ur estimate). In ranked, you'd have between 3700-4300 teammates in like 80% of ur games. It might explain why the 4 stacks that I keep getting paired with are beyond awful.
also i can't really comment on playing support but if u play a good offlane phoenix/centaur/timbersaw u can easily rape many 1v2 lanes, i've won so many games just by picking phoenix post-nerf cuz he dominates in teamfights if ur supernova positioning isn't retarded
playing a hard carry like spec/pl is actually not a good idea if you're solo queuing since you have to rely on teammates to win the early game for you as they have very little lane control and need at least 2 good items after treads before even thinking of coming near a teamfight. i guess if u massively outskill the opposition u can win regardless, but that's usually not the case
It's quite fun smurfing. I'm definitely learning a lot from these really high skilled players and the amount of impact they can enforce onto a game. I have to pull my own weight and give it my 110% every game no matter what position I play. This is a much better learning environment than playing on my main's account.
..Of course, this is all with the exception of a few trash players like that KoTL. But overall, better quality games.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/734225149
you realize you are ruining games right?
Smurfing is fun for you because you have higher skilled players holding your hand and carrying you thru games
Aren't you generalizing your judgement based off of one SK game?... I had to play solo support and as the initiator. Plus when you look at the Hero damage of the terror blade, it shouldn't be lower than the SK with less farm.
Just putting this out there, my main is 3450 MMR. This smurf is ~5.1k and I'm still winning 70% of my games in the past 10 games (all in ~5k)...
Not everyone is placed properly to begin with. Myself, I played 90% of my games on my main with my bad friends for fun. You'd think after 70 games it would be dropping me closer to 3.4 not pushing me higher and higher.. right?
So Terrorblade caused you to play like shit?
@.#hollaholla
54.55% win rate
you are taking small sections of your abusing smurf and you are pulling numbers out of your ass with. Unranked =/ ranked, you are not a 5k player
So many delusion kids that dont understand how the anti smurf works.....
terrorblade's main job is to push towers not to teamfight - if the other team can quickly clear out his images and stunlock him he's going to die in 3 seconds (despite his high armor) due to his vulnerability to magic damage.
i have no idea how hollaholla got those numbers if he hasn't even finished 10 placement matches. you have 6 games in ranked and u need 10 to know ur MMR
Looks like you're going up against mostly low 4k/high 3k players in ur calibration matches while stacking with a friend (party =/= solo mmr), i have no idea why you think ur 5k lol
i don't get why people think they can just get to 5k from 3.5k or whatever their MMR is over the course of a few weeks. unless you're exceptionally talented at this type of game you're going to take years and years of practice before being able to reach 5k, because that's how the game is designed: to have a steep learning curve.
i can see how a 3.5k player might think he can perform acceptably at 4k, but 5k? must be fucking delusional or something
@hollaholla
That is because you playing NP or Venomancer is no pressure on your team, look at the times you have tried to play core heroes you've simply done nothing. I am not saying you're a terrible player I am just saying that you basically play heroes where with or without you your team stand a chance of winning, putting you on a carry or mid in that bracket is suicide for you and your team so you stick to doing what gets you buy.
I mean no insult by saying this I am just stating that with a lot of people who go "I smurfed to 5k and I survive fine" but looking over your games you aren't shining at all. Heroes like venomancer and NP are bound to have impact no matter how bad the player is as one can just split push and the other (if you're unskilled) hits Q and R and voila, impact.
Consider that I have 60%+ win rates on both of these heroes and have over 90-150 games as they're just massively game impacting without you even having to do much. Most smurf accounts that are above what they should be aren't thriving, they're surviving and this doesn't mean that you were assigned a dud rating and that you belong in 5k because by that same right so does everyone else.
Retarded smurfs (+ compendium) are the most annoying thing these days. I'm at ~4.8k and people with < 100 wins ruin every third game. You can clearly see that they don't just have a bad game.
Initially, you ruin the games of new players that might never play dota again (hurting everyone) and later you'll ruin the games when you get rated too high.
If you want that 4k, play your main and continue having 60% win and stop being part of the dota 2 cancer. Shouldn't take too long to get up, if you belong there.
going through all the effort of playing a bunch of games then calibrating maybe 500 mmr higher by playing op heroes etc (not to mention ruining games at higher level if your not good enough)... wouldn't it just be easier to play op heroes on your main?
I don't think a 3k guy can smurf up to 5k and maintain it , 2k is a huge difference and you will eventually get destroyed. Why people just won't try to raise the mmr on their main account.
Everyone believes that they are a special snowflake
He won't get to 5k, for sure. He'll be able to get to 4k.
Sunrise, cause if u know u are in the not correct MMR it's so boring lost your time in awful games when the smurf games are 10 times better than your main acc games.
Sampson is angry with the world cause he thinks all the ppl have the correct MMR the first time.
For example, i was in 2k and dthe ppl was buying boots after the min 15, and they calling me noob cause i pick windruner and pa in mid.
And i had to suffer it every game.
Also, every fucking game i had a pudge that dont want to let me mid and i had to go lane with a stupid retard who try to get lasthits pushing the lane all he can.
Man, must of the time i disagree with Sampson beucase you know, fuck him, but the more i play the more i find AWFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL players thinking they are way better than their team because of x reasons, the worst part is that you can " feel " how bad they are.
Dota is turning more and more into a single player game for me, i am so tired of listening to the bullshit of my team that i just click on mute chat button and done.
Takenforce, the fact the know forum retard X6 is the only person who agrees with you tells you alot about your experiment now doesn't it......
"Also, every fucking game i had a pudge that dont want to let me mid and i had to go lane with a stupid retard who try to get lasthits pushing the lane all he can."
because you have to go mid as WR and PA right? cant fit into the team line up. You would rather force the crappy pudge to go offlane or safelane than take it yourself with heroes that can do it better? :D You must have some bad luck because i rarely get people not buying any boots till 15 mins and im sure there are people arguing over lanes at every mmr
Ty dotabuff for keeping me entertained between games.
no problem man
Dorkyl, a week ago, my real mmr was 2k or less, now i feel like a good player, ok im not 4k but of course not 2k and its all thanks to smurf.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/731266776
2k MM player imo
If you play 4 games per day on average, 7 days a week that's 28 games. If you are as good as you say going 65% is about 18-10. At 25 pts a win or loss that's up 400 points a week. So you should easily be able to raise your mmr up to where you assume it should be in a month.
You know my favorite way of mesuring skill ? A good player watching you play and telling you if you are awful or if you are decent
@Mark
dont bring ur math and logic in here!
Sampson 2k player too http://dotabuff.com/matches/700355956
All of us can play this game
WOW and your puck is... too awesome
http://dotabuff.com/matches/699753232 i dont know if my puck is even better than this shit
http://dotabuff.com/players/180076468
we can play this game XD
2k MM stats
49% win rate smurf thinking he is a 5k player, epic stuff
Yeah, thats cause i get some very high skill with good results :D
@Holla
54.5% with a smurf who don't even have 100 games. I have no comment about that, just cute you think you're 5k worthy :)
rofl the guy managed to get 49% WR on a smurf
Can u read sampson?
''Dorkyl, a week ago, my real mmr was 2k or less, now i feel like a good player, ok im not 4k but of course not 2k and its all thanks to smurf.''
Where do u get your conclusion about my suposed 5k?
SLEAVE, yeah, but you are playing in normal mode and im playing in high, and sometimes very high
Your stats are low for even a 2k NON smurf
Ok, so i'm wining 3-3.7k players
I would have to disagree with Sampson aswell clearly the guy is doing at least OK, obviously everyone will have a bad game once in a while but I think the experiment is a good idea to take a clearer look at yourself and your playstyle. This is a game and since he is enjoying it more playing on a smurf let him smurf. And he IS playing high impact heros AND doing fine at the same time so hes not exactly "getting by".
I doubt you can compare him to the likes of X6 whos just clearly a fucking idiot.
well no doubt X6 is the most retarded trash tier player to ever post on these but it does not change the fact that this guy's experiment does nothing but ruin games for everyone.
its like if I joined Cloud 9, I would gain a ton of experience and it would be fun for me BUT I would be fucking up their matches with my lack of skill
Smurfing is selfish and ruins the game for 9 other people
I like ruin your games
I play on US so I dont have to deal with inbred scum like you
US too ez for europeans
You know what my life, my smurfs, you will not stop my smurfs. And really i just have 1, the other 1 is for have phun with my brother doing the Magnus+Io combo