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General DiscussionHow to beat TA mid

How to beat TA mid in General Discussion
Noé

    How do you beat this piece of shit hero when you don't have viper or something like that? I'm talking about a solo 1v1 situation.
    I know some tricks, like carry TP to avoid death and get sentries, but aside from that, it's fucking impossible. She can outrun you to the rune, and if she doesn't outrun you, she just slows you. She can push the lane a lot, not to mention the harass from that shitty skill that spills damage. And you can't kill her, because of refraction and insane damage early on.

    bebeb

      jakiro

      regulator

        cm

        Steror

          Easy, harass her with attacks to get refraction off before nuking her. Push the wave to get runes, she has almost no counter push so she's either getting the cs or the rune, not both. Place sentry in mid lane to prevent her from meld dodging and have dusts for ganks on her. Also, tp isn't the best counter from my experience since most heroes would just get bursted down with meld.

          Hopeless

            viper jak veno invis detection

            NoDE.Zafoche

              batrider, venomancer, meepo, axe, weaver, slardar

              Wink

                Orb of Venom

                Timberrino

                  ^ orb of venom doesnt work smartass

                  TOC | Amanda Dermichknutscht

                    phoenix

                    as long as you dont get hit too much you fuck her

                    if you hit 6 ta is birdfood

                    harvard graduate

                      as someone who played TA quite a bit, just stay back and pray to god that your supports have some TPs when she gets a haste.
                      Avoid being hit by Psi blades and control creep aggro so that she gets your creep aggro when harassing you. If you miss your block tho, you can pretty much go surrender the lane though.
                      Also many TA players overextend when they get Refraction up. Try to bait them into running at you while being attacked or smth...
                      There are worse heroes to lane against tbh.

                      Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                        LOL @ CM... ur gonna have like 0 cs and die after level 4+

                        BenaoLifedancer

                          get a fast necro 3 and maelstrom ez shit

                          Noé

                            jeezus, i'm talking about a solo 1v1 matchup in the practice 1v1 mode where you dont get to see the hero your enemy picked so picking a counter is not a solution.

                            MadBeast

                              pick kotl.

                              ☛ ƊƦ.ӍѺƝֆƬ€Ʀ

                                VIPER VIPER VIPER VIPER , she cant do shit against viper, if ur playing solo 1v1 u must buy a sentry otherwise let a support get it so u start rape early.

                                other than viper there is : necro, qop, pudge

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                                yiran

                                  Just pick viper every game

                                  source: me

                                  Miku Plays

                                    @OP

                                    you just cant ... sorry need DoTs to rape that BS hero

                                    Quick maffs

                                      I saw people beating TA with SF, i mean its posible to beat her without DoT but its easier with some kind of DoT

                                      Chou2x

                                        i easily beat viper using TA, when he tries to orb walk he needs to stop a bit, that's where the psi blades come to play. anyway i think the easiest way to down ta is jst gank him with your supports, she has no escape mechanism/stun whatsoever.

                                        nigga

                                          omg u hav to teach me that ^

                                          matrice

                                            huskar gg wp

                                            Mohouzeg

                                              Verbal harassment always does the trick

                                              cracky

                                                qop huskarr viper pudge veno ogre

                                                Sugar Show

                                                  There must be something wrong if any go TA mid atm

                                                  Zenoth

                                                    ^

                                                    ta best mid hero ever

                                                    Noé

                                                      do u guys not get it or am i being trolled

                                                      Krazy Kat

                                                        Huskar burning spears.

                                                        Zenoth

                                                          ya so in a 1v1 matchup you obviously want to pick a strong laner... why would you take something that can lose to TA?

                                                          its fucking rock-paper-scissors, what can i say about it...

                                                          e.g. viper, huskar, razor are all ridiculously strong laners in a 1v1 matchup and will probably win TA in lane given equal skill

                                                          if you go and pick sf or something useless like that and lose to TA then you shouldn't be complaining about this...

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                                                          Noé

                                                            wtf? the point of practice 1v1 is not winning, though sure it's nice. im trying to learn how to beat TA, at least certain tricks to improve my odds. if i wanted to win i'd pick something like shadow shaman bottle crow like hell and take the t1 mid.

                                                            besides, a shit load of strong laners lose to TA.

                                                            Dunning-Kruger-Doto

                                                              Counterpick her?

                                                              Pduge, viper, huskar, silencer and Bloodseeker should do the work. As Bloodseeker you just use bloodrage and make sure you lasthit and deni as good as possible against her (you should out cs her hard!). Her psiblades, refractions and meld come by time, so you need to harrass her with autoattacks and force her to use all her regen asap. Furthermore you need to delay her bottle. You can melddown refractsion with bloodrage. For me its a pretty even lineup, and most games I come ahead of the ta.

                                                              Pudge/viper/huskar counter her rly hard. Esp pudge can just walk up to her and kill her with rot. You can also run a veno against her and wrack havoc against her. Veno is a supporthero and should not be played mid, but if you get caught offguard strong, go for it. I played once a game as veno and wanted to go support. Our Kunkka got outpicked by ta, so we played duallanes and I went as veno mid. The TA had no chance.

                                                              Qop can also deal with ta, since you have shadowstrike. Sniper can deal with her, with shrapnell and his big range. Batrider wipes the floor rly rly hard with her, since his firefly is dot. Same goes for ember, who has his burning shield.

                                                              OD can her just render out with 0 mana. She can't use reflections or meld and her damage is pathetic compared to ods.

                                                              If you go SF, Kunkka, Piuck, Invoker or Tiny against her, do not complain that you lose.

                                                              There are way harder miders to counter (Razor,Viper).

                                                              All laners that rely on burst, lose to TA.

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                                                              Russell Westbrook

                                                                tinker qop pudge husk viper bat all do fine against ta

                                                                in order

                                                                laser to last hit/deny, march to pop refraction if she goes on u/give rune control
                                                                qop - shadowstrike to remove refraction, easy harrassment on ta with longer range and slow, better rune control
                                                                pudge - refraction goes away just like that, shes really squishy without it
                                                                husk - refraction dies, but after the laning stage ta is a counter to husk since she can blow you up if u ult (and u have shitty armor to begin with so it hurts) and has two ways to dodge ur ult
                                                                viper-remove refraction with poison
                                                                bat can get a ton of sticky napalm stacks up on her since she has to come in close to last hit, once he gets 3 or 4 can dive her if its pretty early on but post level 5 its kind of hard to dive her with meld

                                                                Miku Plays

                                                                  necrophos can handle TA 1v1

                                                                  sleave

                                                                    bloodseeker outcsing TA? never happened to me

                                                                    Bot (Passive)

                                                                      ta should win that matchup all day

                                                                      and idk how necro can handle ta

                                                                      tribeca.

                                                                        Don't let her go invis, get some silence item, or a mid hero who has silence skill. Go for high movement speed hero for outrunning?

                                                                        sleave

                                                                          silencer for example sucks vs TA mid, atleast in my experience so far
                                                                          just played 1v1 vs Silencer and once you got the pattern of his skills you can take it with no dmg due to refraction

                                                                          viper is a decent counter, OD can handle him pretty well too (constant prisionment = no mana for refraction = ez pz)

                                                                          Hafla Enjoyer

                                                                            Pudge isnt a counter, the bullshit hook damage is blocked by refraction and once he hooks abd ults you, you should stay alive and rape him. He has low armour

                                                                            sleave

                                                                              the only thing that really counters TA in pudge is his rot, and it only works at first levels where u don't have meld, he comes running into you and there is nothing for you to do, just trade hits. but if thats a counter then its shit cause he doesnt even manage to kill you

                                                                              as soon as TA has his meld maxed its gg for pudge

                                                                              Bot (Passive)

                                                                                you can walk up to the ta in a lot of cases with her garbage range

                                                                                which makes her have to play a lot more defensive or die to you (provided you buy a stout shield since his armor is ass)

                                                                                and all the heroes that have silences are magic damage heroes /burst (sky, puck) who all lose the lane hard. the invis isnt what wins her the lane...

                                                                                Big Boost Big Boobs

                                                                                  are you guys serious? ta rapes necro.

                                                                                  Humanoids

                                                                                    25% of heroes counters her…She is my favorite hero, but she is not good at all. Too easy to counter. However if u don't have counters she will rape u pretty hard. She is a little bit like Weaver, u just need to counter or u lose.

                                                                                    ...

                                                                                      huskar.

                                                                                      nigga

                                                                                        huskar is awful against ta ^

                                                                                        try viper

                                                                                        Quick maffs

                                                                                          Windrunner, pre 6 wind loses pretty hard but past 6 in my opinion wind winss

                                                                                          Conall

                                                                                            urn charges if you don't want to pick around her. Gank a sidelane for charges.

                                                                                            Bot (Passive)

                                                                                              huskar rapes ta not sure what thats about. one spear to remove refraction and then its standard burning spear stuff

                                                                                              he only gets raped after laning is over

                                                                                              also hp removal (urn) doesnt trigger refraction

                                                                                              [DFG] Whale King

                                                                                                A good storm can harass a TA out of lane early on when she goes in for last hits... just make sure not to pull during refraction :)

                                                                                                way2high

                                                                                                  See the game in slow motion is the way to go.

                                                                                                  Noé

                                                                                                    I love how 99% of the posts say pick X hero, when i specifically stated "How do you beat this piece of shit hero ((((((((((( when you don't have viper or something like that?))))))))))))"

                                                                                                    Luxalpa, Primal Calamity

                                                                                                      Here's the thing though, it strongly depends on the lineup you're playing. Of course Viper owns TA in mid, but many TA players would agree when I say that OD is a pretty strong enemy as well.
                                                                                                      Especially in a 1v1 situation, it depends on the hero since his abilities are what matter most in a 1v1 scenario.